Which Player Do You Want?

[nebboy]

I would want to know about how he is in the clubhouse and if he is a total s#*t show of a personality- numbers are great but there is more to being a great player than that.

[raulus]

I’ll take one of each.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by nebboy

I would want to know about how he is in the clubhouse and if he is a total s#*t show of a personality- numbers are great but there is more to being a great player than that.

This!!

[G1911]

It should be noted that you get player B for 25%+ more games, and played in a period where the .977 OPS is significantly better in context to time and place.

I pick B, because of the context.

[Schwertfeger1007]

Originally Posted by G1911

It should be noted that you get player B for 25%+ more games, and played in a period where the .977 OPS is significantly better in context to time and place.

I pick B, because of the context.

Very unamerican of you to downgrade "Player A" due to him missing a few seasons so he could serve his country. LOL

I'm voting for the war hero who married the most iconic actress/celebrity of his generation.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Schwertfeger1007

Very unamerican of you to downgrade "Player A" due to him missing a few seasons so he could serve his country. LOL

I'm voting for the war hero who married the most iconic actress/celebrity of his generation.

Yes. I hate America because a question about which is statistically better spurred me to use statistics, and not war service or comparing which actresses they got with. What an excellent and insightful point.

[Jason19th]

This exercise shows the importance of eras. If player B played in the national league in the 1960’s he would have been a top level star. If player A was an outfielder in the 1930’s he would have been one bad week away from riding the pine as a forth outfielder.

[Schwertfeger1007]

Originally Posted by G1911

Yes. I hate America because a question about which is statistically better spurred me to use statistics, and not war service or comparing which actresses they got with. What an excellent and insightful point.

Seems you didn't catch the sarcasm. Thought the "LOL" would do the trick...oh well can't win them all.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Schwertfeger1007

Very unamerican of you to downgrade "Player A" due to him missing a few seasons so he could serve his country. LOL

I'm voting for the war hero who married the most iconic actress/celebrity of his generation.

DiMaggio wasn't actually in combat, was he? Didn't he essentially play baseball to entertain? The other thing is, if you take away Mantle's long decline, his per 162s look a lot better.

[jsfriedm]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

DiMaggio wasn't actually in combat, was he? Didn't he essentially play baseball to entertain? The other thing is, if you take away Mantle's long decline, his per 162s look a lot better.

As if entertainment wasn't heroism of the highest order....

[oldjudge]

Obviously, by this time everyone knows that Player A is Joe DiMaggio and player B is Mickey Mantle. After Mantle retired in 1969 baseball selected its’ all time team. the outfield: Ruth, Cobb and DiMaggio. In 1994, Ted Williams was asked to rank the greatest hitters ever. On his list DiMaggio was number 5, Mantle was number 12. I just think that after both have been long retired Mantle continues to get better relative to DiMaggio. This is just hitting. As a fielder DiMaggio was clearly better. Mantle was routinely replaced in late innings for defensive purposes. DiMaggio was the premier center fielder of his day.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

This!!

So that's the tiebreaker for you two, then? Interesting. 3 MVPs but not a good clubhouse guy. Forget about him.

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[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

So that's the tiebreaker for you two, then? Interesting. 3 MVPs but not a good clubhouse guy. Forget about him.

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Didn't they both win 3 MVPs?

Maybe the tie breaker should be postseason play?

Player A had more World Series, but Player B was the better hitter.

Player A in the postseason: .271/.338/.422 with an OPS of .760
Player B in the postseason: .257/.374/.535 with an OPS of .908

Player A had 8 postseason HRs in 199 at bats
Player B had 18 postseason HRs in 230 at bats

[Fred]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Didn't they both win 3 MVPs?

Yeah, but look at the third MVP for player A. He shouldn't have gotten the award. How does that work? The runner up had with twice the WAR (which I don't use as a measuring stick) and won a triple crown that year. Runner up also had an OPS 200 points higher.

If you go by rookie card price, it looks like player B will win the popularity contest.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Fred

Yeah, but look at the third MVP for player A. He shouldn't have gotten the award. How does that work? The runner up had with twice the WAR (which I don't use as a measuring stick) and won a triple crown that year. Runner up also had an OPS 200 points higher.

If you go by rookie card price, it looks like player B will win the popularity contest.

No question that Player B deserved more MVPs. Player B lead the League in WAR 5x. Player A led the League in WAR 0 times. Although Player A did lead the League in WAR for position players 3x.

Even if you don't go by WAR, it is very hard to justify Player A winning as many MVPs as player B. But who knows what would have happened in the years Player A couldn't play because of military service.