Card conundrum

[bnorth]

I would thank them for the offer of letting you return it. Tell them you will keep it and thank them for the transactions and wish them a great day.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I would thank them for the offer of letting you return it. Tell them you will keep it and thank them for the transactions and wish them a great day.

+1 No sense poking the bear. Sounds like you already came out ahead, why go for some bad karma.

I would check with them again though and inquire about the balance of the one year you thought you were getting. I would be nice and thank them for the return offer, and politely decline, and then without being too over the top, mention how you were really hoping to get the balance of the cards from the one year, and if they still had them, is there any way they could work out a deal with you? You're already playing with house money, so to speak, so it can't hurt to ask. They may not want to give you money back on the value difference, but if you offer to buy more, they may be more inclined to cut you a break. You never know, they might give you a heck of a deal on the price to help make up for what you thought you were supposed to get. Doesn't hurt to ask nicely, worst they can do is so no. Good luck.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I would thank them for the offer of letting you return it. Tell them you will keep it and thank them for the transactions and wish them a great day.

Originally Posted by BobC

+1 No sense poking the bear. Sounds like you already came out ahead, why go for some bad karma.

I would check with them again though and inquire about the balance of the one year you thought you were getting. I would be nice and thank them for the return offer, and politely decline, and then without being too over the top, mention how you were really hoping to get the balance of the cards from the one year, and if they still had them, is there any way they could work out a deal with you? You're already playing with house money, so to speak, so it can't hurt to ask. They may not want to give you money back on the value difference, but if you offer to buy more, they may be more inclined to cut you a break. You never know, they might give you a heck of a deal on the price to help make up for what you thought you were supposed to get. Doesn't hurt to ask nicely, worst they can do is so no. Good luck.

As I should respond back today, I am following the routes above....I'll call it the karma route.

Originally Posted by todeen

I would consider myself in the wrong to press for cards missing while refusing to let the seller know they made a mistake that is benefiting me far greater than my loss.

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Originally Posted by Jim65

If you were the seller, would you want the buyer to inform you of the more expensive mix-up? Do you think you are doing something dishonest if you keep the card?

I'm not making a judgement either way, but only you know the answer, nobody else's opinion matters.

As a seller also, yes, I would appreciate a buyer letting me know that I did not deliver what was advertised and sent something more/less expensive. I am not perfect and have done this myself....about half the time the buyer lets me know, the other half of the time I dont discover my mistake until after I have sold to someone else the item I mistakenly sent previously.

In my intial post I made a mistake by saying the lot was "supposed to be an assorted lot of unspecified low to mid-grade commons". It should have read "expected" instead of supposed. Obviously later in the post I used the word I meant to use, "expected".

Based on the seller's description of the lot, it specified a year, make, condition range, quantity of cards and the fact that there would be duplication. One scan showed a few cards from the lot, not including the expensive card. There were no other specifics mentioned in the description, including what cards would be included. Since what I received with this second lot was all well within the seller's description, I don't think I should feel bad about keeping something that was within the seller's description, but simply not expected.


My concern with the first lot was I did not receive what was advertised. In this second lot I did receive what was advertised, it just contained a card I didn't expect to receive.

If the 'bonus" card was of the same player, but from a different year (one not advertised in the listing), I would agree the correct thing to do would be to let the seller know of their mistake as I would have received something not as advertised.

Thank you all for the feedback.

[brad15]

In the Ozarks, that's called "cutting a fat hog in the ass".

[RCMcKenzie]

What is the "good" card? Is it a Mickey Mantle? A 59 Topps Gibson in vg is worth like $400, so it's not something like that. What is it?

How big are they? I wouldn't return it to Walmart, but I would let a fellow collector know there was a 56 Topps Mantle in his stack of 56 Commons. I don't really understand.

[Exhibitman]

There are three answers here: return both, keep both, return the bad lot and keep the good one. Keeping them both. IMO, is an intellectually inconsistent answer. A mistake in your favor or a mistake against you are flip sides of the same coin, so the answer should be return both if you are bothered by the idea of getting an advantage. If it doesn't bother you, then return the one that disfavors you and keep the other one.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

There are three answers here: return both, keep both, return the bad lot and keep the good one. Keeping them both. IMO, is an intellectually inconsistent answer. A mistake in your favor or a mistake against you are flip sides of the same coin, so the answer should be return both if you are bothered by the idea of getting an advantage. If it doesn't bother you, then return the one that disfavors you and keep the other one.

The seller gave me an option to return the first lot, due to it being not-as-described. I chose to keep the first lot. The seller apologized but did not offer any compensation for their error. I thought about returning the first lot, and when relisted bidding on it again. Likely the bidding went as high as it did originally due to the seller's error in the listing. So maybe I win it for half the amount next time....maybe not, just not worth the hassle.

The second lot was as described, the unexpected card met the advertised description of the listing. Was the overall value of this lot more than expected, for sure....finding unexpected value is a primary reason I regularly buy lots. Therefore, I am not bothered by getting an advantage with this lot or any other lot that is as described.

My original question focuses on how hard, if at all, should I push the seller (and possibly upset them) on the variance in value of the first lot caused by their error in the description given the unexpected value of the second lot.

In other words, should I just view these two lots as single transaction and considering I am ahead value wise on the entire transaction, move on and not hassle/upset the dealer.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

What is the "good" card? Is it a Mickey Mantle? A 59 Topps Gibson in vg is worth like $400, so it's not something like that. What is it?

How big are they? I wouldn't return it to Walmart, but I would let a fellow collector know there was a 56 Topps Mantle in his stack of 56 Commons. I don't really understand.

Not important what the specific card involved is, but it has a market value of around $1k. It was not a "collector" I bought these lots from; it was a for-profit dealer. As mentioned previously, this dealer's inattention to the information contained in the first listing caused a min. difference in value of $350, not to my benefit. The second lot was "as described" and the unexpected card was well within the listing's description. The original question was really more how hard, if at all, do I push for compensation on the first lot considering the unexpected card found in the second lot.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Not important what the specific card involved is, but it has a market value of around $1k. It was not a "collector" I bought these lots from; it was a for-profit dealer. As mentioned previously, this dealer's inattention to the information contained in the first listing caused a min. difference in value of $350, not to my benefit. The second lot was "as described" and the unexpected card was well within the listing's description. The original question was really more how hard, if at all, do I push for compensation on the first lot considering the unexpected card found in the second lot.

If it's not important to you, then It's certainly not important to me. It's none of my business.

If it's a "yellow tiger" or whatever, I think that's different than a star card. I would have just kept them both and counted my blessings. If it were me, and I complained about the first lot, with my luck the seller would revisit the 2nd lot, and say hey, did I accidentally give you a yellow tiger card? Can you send that back?

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

The second lot was "as described" and the unexpected card was well within the listing's description.

The OP was awkwardly worded, but if I sussed it out correctly, you got a $1000 card mistakenly included in a lot that would otherwise be worth $350. The notion that the valuable card fits within the technical description of the lot strikes me as motivated reasoning. You are trying to lawyer your way into surreptitiously taking advantage of the seller's second error while concurrently trying to get him to make correct his original error (unrelated to the valuable card.)

From here, there is only one question that has to be asked and only one person who can answer it. That question is, assuming you keep the valuable card without telling the dealer, whether you can feel good about it when you look at yourself in the mirror. I couldn't, but I've always been something of a stuffed shirt.