Hey, pennant guys

Fballguy · #1 02-24-2023, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

Another reason the tassels may have been removed is for symmetry and overall appearance. I personally would rather have a pennant with both sets of tassels missing than just one set. My eyes are immediately drawn to the asymmetry if just one set of tassels is present. So I prefer the cleaner look of no tassels at all, and have been guilty of performing a "tasselectomy" or two.

The basic tassel rule 4 > 0 > 2

1960s tassels are more trouble than they're worth. If you have 4 nice ones great. But if even one gets that creased, broken, limp, dangly look it changes the entire aesthetic of the pennant. Then there's the super brittle, egg shell tassels that you could probably disintegrate just by looking at too long.

They make 60s pennants harder to store too because you need larger bins. Pre-60 tassels are soft and durable and can be tucked or bunched. With the 60s, I prefer to iron them flat and then agonize about anything touching them. I just did my annual pennant sort/audit and had one casualty. The horror of picking up a stack of pennants and seeing a chunk of red tassel on the floor left behind.

perezfan · #2 02-24-2023, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy

The basic tassel rule 4 > 0 > 2

1960s tassels are more trouble than they're worth. If you have 4 nice ones great. But if even one gets that creased, broken, limp, dangly look it changes the entire aesthetic of the pennant. Then there's the super brittle, egg shell tassels that you could probably disintegrate just by looking at too long.

They make 60s pennants harder to store too because you need larger bins. Pre-60 tassels are soft and durable and can be tucked or bunched. With the 60s, I prefer to iron them flat and then agonize about anything touching them. I just did my annual pennant sort/audit and had one casualty. The horror of picking up a stack of pennants and seeing a chunk of red tassel on the floor left behind.

What you just so eloquently described has taken at least a year off my life. The bins are always about an inch short, to accommodate these breakable tassels. The guy who sold Trench on the cheaper tassels should be inducted into a Collector�s Hall of Shame.

When I was selling on eBay, I sold a 1967 All Star Game pennant for a pretty decent price. But one of those �crispy� tassels broke off in transit. The buyer was pissed and we settled on 60% of the original sales price.

Took a big hit on that one. The tassels might as well have been made from Lays Potato Chips� same durability and texture.

ooo-ribay · #3 02-24-2023, 09:22 AM

I glad�.and surprised�.you guys think tassels are �take �em or leave �em.� I wish my recent pickup had them. The seller was a great guy and took my best offer but he said he didn�t know if the tassels were missing or if the pennant never had them. With my pennant in hand, it�s pretty damn obvious it used to have tassels. And this is a seller who deals nearly exclusively in sports memorabilia.

ooo-ribay · #4 02-24-2023, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy

The basic tassel rule 4 > 0 > 2

Where do 3 and 1 fit into the algorithm?

ooo-ribay · #5 02-24-2023, 02:17 PM

Kyle turned me onto this...my Alma Mater...Ohio U....aka Harvard on the Hocking.

The pennant is not great but the history is cool. For not the first time, I should have left well enough alone but did not. Untying the tassles opened a big can of worms. I need to get this thing under plexiglass and never f**k with it again. I think I will display it with what's left of the tassels folded over.

Domer05 · #6 02-24-2023, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Kyle turned me onto this...my Alma Mater...Ohio U....aka Harvard on the Hocking.

The pennant is not great but the history is cool.

The history is cool. Beautiful catalogue, great find Rob. And, your "pennant" is even cooler ... but, remember--it's not a pennant; it's a burgee.

thetahat · #7 02-25-2023, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Kyle turned me onto this...my Alma Mater...Ohio U....aka Harvard on the Hocking.

The pennant is not great but the history is cool. For not the first time, I should have left well enough alone but did not. Untying the tassles opened a big can of worms. I need to get this thing under plexiglass and never f**k with it again. I think I will display it with what's left of the tassels folded over.

OU is said to have the best sports marketing (or sports management?) program in the country. The school owns a franchise in a summer collegiate league and their students pretty much run it as an internship.

ooo-ribay · #8 02-25-2023, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat

OU is said to have the best sports marketing (or sports management?) program in the country. The school owns a franchise in a summer collegiate league and their students pretty much run it as an internship.

I�d never heard that. I always thought their claim to fame was being named the #1 Party School in numerous years.

thetahat · #9 02-24-2023, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Where do 3 and 1 fit into the algorithm?

With 5 and 6

ooo-ribay · #10 02-24-2023, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat

With 5 and 6

I might be tempted to make the Giants a 4.

ooo-ribay · #11 02-24-2023, 02:57 PM

^^^ and Greg�.I meant to ask what your �solutions� were for oversized (e.g. your Athletics) pennants. I seem to remember poster sized toploaders and/or some heavy vinyl you bought. I don�t want to go through pages and pages of HPG to find your posts. I also seem to remember Mark said the frames meant to hold (3) 8x10 photos would work. If need be, I�d cut �windows� on the back side to show the labels.

ooo-ribay · #12 02-24-2023, 03:05 PM

Here�s the whole catalog for the maker of my OU pennant:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?...3960/t5k93xs3m

thetahat · #13 02-24-2023, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

^^^ and Greg….I meant to ask what your “solutions” were for oversized (e.g. your Athletics) pennants. I seem to remember poster sized toploaders and/or some heavy vinyl you bought. I don’t want to go through pages and pages of HPG to find your posts. I also seem to remember Mark said the frames meant to hold (3) 8x10 photos would work. If need be, I’d cut “windows” on the back side to show the labels.

Sure. The heavy vinyl was a flop. I had to tape both edges and over time they sagged and the tape slid. I eventually replaced all of them with poster toploaders which give me one existing rigid edge that I use for the bottom edge, and I tape the top. Big success. I am able to get two large pennant holders from one $20 40” toploader. Only one of my oversized exceeds that, I have a 42” Cubs and had to put on an “extension” at the tip. I use photo toploaders for framing my minis, a guillotine paper cutter comes in real handy as does invisible wrapping tape. The Athletics above came from a 40” toploader.

I have also used smaller poster toploaders for custom fitting smaller 8x26 pennants that look odd in the normal sizes holders. I’ve also trimmed standard pennant holders to size.

ooo-ribay · #14 02-24-2023, 05:14 PM

Are you able to find those big toploaders locally? I saw them online at a good price but there was a minimum order of ten units. I think I have a Plan B.

661fish · #15 02-27-2023, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat

With 5 and 6

Greg, have you ever seen that Giants pennant in purple?

bocca001 · #16 02-27-2023, 07:54 AM

Not mine (pic from worthpoint). It seems to be a mix of burgundy and purple. There is also blue.

thetahat · #17 02-27-2023, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 661fish

Greg, have you ever seen that Giants pennant in purple?

Seen it in blue, and now thanks to Marc, in purple.

Trench went crazy on 1954 championship pennants. Maybe 6 variations of Indians and 2 for the Giants, this being the other

ooo-ribay · #18 02-27-2023, 02:40 PM

I'm very happy with how this turned out (if I do say so myself). All it took was a $25 27x40 poster frame.....and about two hours of finagling!

I spray glued some catalog pages to the back and cut out little windows so you can see the two tags.

thetahat · #19 02-27-2023, 03:28 PM

Very nice framing!

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