MLB HOFer quiz

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

While it is truly a small number who have achieved those awards, don't forget that there was no rookie of the year award before 1947 and the MVP award was spotty the first 20 years of last century. Although I haven't done the research, others might make the list if there was an analysis of their careers and a de facto ROY award created, since there obviously was a pretty awesome group of players the first half of the 1900s.

you are right but sadly we can only play the MLB rules and stats and history as they provide it

Just like including when we rate how many MVP awards players won in their career and yet in the 1920's for example the rules included only 1 player from each team on the ballot and you could not win more than 1 award In the 1920s the leagues awarded MVPs, called the League Award. The American League also allowed players to win the award only once. This caused Babe Ruth to be ineligible for the award in historic 1927 season.

In addition there was only 1 LEAGUE WIDE winner until the 1930's when it was split and each league had it own winner so there was more awards to give out and people can win it more often

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

you are right but sadly we can only play the MLB rules and stats and history as they provide it

Just like including when we rate how many MVP awards players won in their career and yet in the 1920's for example the rules included only 1 player from each team on the ballot and you could not win more than 1 award In the 1920s the leagues awarded MVPs, called the League Award. The American League also allowed players to win the award only once. This caused Babe Ruth to be ineligible for the award in historic 1927 season.

In addition there was only 1 LEAGUE WIDE winner until the 1930's when it was split and each league had it own winner so there was more awards to give out and people can win it more often

Agree, and I think you just helped to make my point that it really isn't a proper sample size to include players over 100+ years using the rules now in place. More like 75, and the ROY winners during the past 20 years haven't become eligible yet (assuming a 15 year career and a five year wait), so it's more like 55. Still a remarkable accomplishment, for sure, to have made that club you listed, but that will work out to about one every 12 years or so if Pujols and Verlander go in first ballot.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Agree, and I think you just helped to make my point that it really isn't a proper sample size to include players over 100+ years using the rules now in place. More like 75, and the ROY winners during the past 20 years haven't become eligible yet (assuming a 15 year career and a five year wait), so it's more like 55. Still a remarkable accomplishment, for sure, to have made that club you listed, but that will work out to about one every 12 years or so if Pujols and Verlander go in first ballot.

never disagreed with you point.
Just pointing out that most or all these trivia and interesting things have limitations based on what and how the question is. and the history and the rules change but they still have the STATS from all different times and compare it
Still fun conversation and some interesting history
thanks

[nolemmings]

Definitely a fun and interesting topic. Also full of "what ifs". Makes you realize how many things have to fall into place even for even the greats of the game to make it on such an honored list.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Definitely a fun and interesting topic. Also full of "what ifs". Makes you realize how many things have to fall into place even for even the greats of the game to make it on such an honored list.

Absolutely to me the bigger things are beyond the sports that affect the what if’s

Think about the players that served in WW1 and WW2 or Korea and what those players might have done if their careers were not interrupted by those brave players that served like

More than 500 major league players swapped flannels for khakis during World War II, and such well-known players as Stan Musial, Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams

[Peter_Spaeth]

Musial only missed one season I believe.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Musial only missed one season I believe.

MLB fans love stats

very true but 1945 in the peak of his early years it would potentially have been over 200hits (would put him 3rd career ahead of Hank Aaron) 110 runs (would put him 8th career ahead of ARod and Cap Anson and just behind Willie Mays by less than 10), 90 RBI's (would put him 6th career just ahead of Bonds and Gehrig), 80 walks (would put him #10 ahead of Frank Thomas, Eddie Yost, and Darrell Evans)

So 1 season in service to our Country is still impactful and even more so to players like Ted Williams 5 years of his career(Korea and WW2) and Joe D 3 Years WW@