I'm Sick And Tired

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Excellent analysis.

What of course makes the Yogi isms so great is that although they make no sense logically they do make some sense. Take the immortal, nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.

My favorite nonsensical Yogiism that kind of makes sense somehow is the classic “if you come to a fork in the road, take it”. It’s a silly absurdity, or a pithy reminder that indecision is the worst of choices and choosing wrong is better than not to choose; instead of standing at the fork forever, just take a path.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

My favorite nonsensical Yogiism that kind of makes sense somehow is the classic “if you come to a fork in the road, take it”. It’s a silly absurdity, or a pithy reminder that indecision is the worst of choices and choosing wrong is better than not to choose; instead of standing at the fork forever, just take a path.

That is my second favorite, also very brilliant especially in light of the Frost poem.

[Econteachert205]

I got back into the hobby in 2012 and the hobby has become pretty insufferable since the pandemic started and more and more money flowed in. My collection has been pretty much dormant for the past 3-4 years.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That is my second favorite, also very brilliant especially in light of the Frost poem.

That’s probably why I like it. Frost is a wonderful example of the artistic truth, the things that can not fit into a strict logic problem and do not check out as true, but still instruct us on understanding the world and living life. I read only nonfiction until one of my teachers gave me Frost’s Complete Poems and sold me on the notion that there could be an understanding of truth in the inherent untruth of fiction.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

That’s probably why I like it. Frost is a wonderful example of the artistic truth, the things that can not fit into a strict logic problem and do not check out as true, but still instruct us on understanding the world and living life. I read only nonfiction until one of my teachers gave me Frost’s Complete Poems and sold me on the notion that there could be an understanding of truth in the inherent untruth of fiction.

Not his best known, but perhaps my personal favorite.
https://www.thepoetryhour.com/poems/desert-places

[Fred]

Those that don't understand the OPs frustration might consider the following:

Many "collectors" started in this "hobby" decades ago when it was actually fun to find some nice cardboard at a reasonable price and to continue to add to a "collection". I think in most cases, these older "collectors" never considered this "hobby" as an investment or an inflationary hedge, they collected for the love of collecting.

Enter "grading". Misrepresentation, coin doctors and poor subjectivity of coins screwed up that "hobby".

Now the grading of cardboard has brought in an element of "gotta have the best in the world". Population reports and investors start to get into the "hobby" and turn it upside down by leading it into an era where there's a focus on $$$/value rather than just collecting cardboard.

Now go back to that collector who had a passion to continually add to a true collection of cardboard because it was a fun, affordable past time. Now it's a true shit show of card manipulators, thieves and greed. That last statement doesn't mean that EVERYONE is like that, quite to the contrary, especially most people on this board. It's just unfortunate for "collectors" that liked to collect for the fund of "collecting".

Older "collectors" on limited budgets may find it very challenging to continue to add to their collections because it's not economically possible or the collector has just had enough and is saying "no mas, I give up".

I continue to collect because it's something that's been part of my life for a very long time. Is it enjoyable? I think it still is, but if you used to collect a long time ago, then you find hobby dollars don't go near as far as they used to.

With the increase in "value" for cardboard, there's a larger increase in the amount of fraud and butt heads that want to "influence" collectors and end up making it worse for the pure collector.

Yes, this is just a hobby, but for some it's been a part of their life for a LONG time and now it's just not fun anymore for many of those old time "collectors".

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Fred

Those that don't understand the OPs frustration might consider the following:

Many "collectors" started in this "hobby" decades ago when it was actually fun to find some nice cardboard at a reasonable price and to continue to add to a "collection". I think in most cases, these older "collectors" never considered this "hobby" as an investment or an inflationary hedge, they collected for the love of collecting.

Enter "grading". Misrepresentation, coin doctors and poor subjectivity of coins screwed up that "hobby".

Now the grading of cardboard has brought in an element of "gotta have the best in the world". Population reports and investors start to get into the "hobby" and turn it upside down by leading it into an era where there's a focus on $$$/value rather than just collecting cardboard.

Now go back to that collector who had a passion to continually add to a true collection of cardboard because it was a fun, affordable past time. Now it's a true shit show of card manipulators, thieves and greed. That last statement doesn't mean that EVERYONE is like that, quite to the contrary, especially most people on this board. It's just unfortunate for "collectors" that liked to collect for the fund of "collecting".

Older "collectors" on limited budgets may find it very challenging to continue to add to their collections because it's not economically possible or the collector has just had enough and is saying "no mas, I give up".

I continue to collect because it's something that's been part of my life for a very long time. Is it enjoyable? I think it still is, but if you used to collect a long time ago, then you find hobby dollars don't go near as far as they used to.

With the increase in "value" for cardboard, there's a larger increase in the amount of fraud and butt heads that want to "influence" collectors and end up making it worse for the pure collector.

Yes, this is just a hobby, but for some it's been a part of their life for a LONG time and now it's just not fun anymore for many of those old time "collectors".

Great post!

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Fred

Those that don't understand the OPs frustration might consider the following:

Many "collectors" started in this "hobby" decades ago when it was actually fun to find some nice cardboard at a reasonable price and to continue to add to a "collection". I think in most cases, these older "collectors" never considered this "hobby" as an investment or an inflationary hedge, they collected for the love of collecting.

Enter "grading". Misrepresentation, coin doctors and poor subjectivity of coins screwed up that "hobby".

Now the grading of cardboard has brought in an element of "gotta have the best in the world". Population reports and investors start to get into the "hobby" and turn it upside down by leading it into an era where there's a focus on $$$/value rather than just collecting cardboard.

Now go back to that collector who had a passion to continually add to a true collection of cardboard because it was a fun, affordable past time. Now it's a true shit show of card manipulators, thieves and greed. That last statement doesn't mean that EVERYONE is like that, quite to the contrary, especially most people on this board. It's just unfortunate for "collectors" that liked to collect for the fund of "collecting".

Older "collectors" on limited budgets may find it very challenging to continue to add to their collections because it's not economically possible or the collector has just had enough and is saying "no mas, I give up".

I continue to collect because it's something that's been part of my life for a very long time. Is it enjoyable? I think it still is, but if you used to collect a long time ago, then you find hobby dollars don't go near as far as they used to.

With the increase in "value" for cardboard, there's a larger increase in the amount of fraud and butt heads that want to "influence" collectors and end up making it worse for the pure collector.

Yes, this is just a hobby, but for some it's been a part of their life for a LONG time and now it's just not fun anymore for many of those old time "collectors".

I have a friend who has lived in Austin, TX for the last 40 years. Every time I visit, the city has changed, grown, evolved. Whenever I mention it, he responds, "Everyone who moves to Austin wants it to stay exactly how it was when they moved here."

I guess our own little hobby isn't that different in many ways.

[Bpm0014]

No matter what happens from here on out Mr. Ingram........you still had a bunch of great R&B hits in the 80's!

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

No matter what happens from here on out Mr. Ingram........you still had a bunch of great R&B hits in the 80's!

Sadly that J@mes In.gram passed away in 2019. Heck of a singer he was.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by raulus

I have a friend who has lived in Austin, TX for the last 40 years. Every time I visit, the city has changed, grown, evolved. Whenever I mention it, he responds, "Everyone who moves to Austin wants it to stay exactly how it was when they moved here."

I guess our own little hobby isn't that different in many ways.

Every town I've ever lived in has totally gone to shit if you ask someone who has never moved. Never the idyllic way it used to be.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If Don Henley were here he would say to you

All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it
Get over it

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If Don Henley were here he would say to you

All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it
Get over it

Don Henley also wrote:

They call it paradise
I don't know why
You call someplace paradise
Kiss it goodbye