Looking for Sports Card Show Guidance

Lobo Aullando · #1 02-14-2023, 09:35 AM

Cash is always king, but I've paid by all those methods. Of course, it depends on the dealer, but enough of them want to make as many transactions as possible that most of them will take different ways. They will usually tack on 3% for credit, though.

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Originally Posted by Metsfan0507

Jumping on this thread to ask a follow up question: what kind of payment is typically expected by vendors? Do they take credit cards/venmo/paypal, or is cash king? Are there sometimes cash discounts?

parkplace33 · #2 02-14-2023, 10:08 AM

I have a few rules of cards shows:

1. Cash is king. While dealers may make exceptions for higher dollar cards, you need to bring cash.

2. You don't have to buy anything. I have seen many a collector get to a show, see nothing they want/prices too high and then settle and have to buy something.

3. Ask dealers if they have anything else (besides what is on the table). Dealers can't display everything and may keep some stuff under the table/in boxes.

4. If you see an item that you want and it is a fair price, buy it immediately. Don't get into the "circle back" mentality. It may not be there when you return.

5. Remember that dealers are selling cards. If you think a dealers prices are too high, no problem, move along. But don't get into a disagreement over prices. Never ask this question "why are you asking x price".

boysblue · #3 02-14-2023, 11:57 AM

2. You don't have to buy anything. I have seen many a collector get to a show, see nothing they want/prices too high and then settle and have to buy something.

^^^^^^^ This is good advice.

And I recommend the polite and respectful approach. Good luck and, most of all, enjoy the show.

timzcardz · #4 02-14-2023, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33

4. If you see an item that you want and it is a fair price, buy it immediately. Don't get into the "circle back" mentality. It may not be there when you return.

On the flip side, the "circle back" mentality can save you a lot of money.

Don't ask how I know.

steve B · #5 02-14-2023, 12:59 PM

I'm probably odd in usually not trying to bargain. But then I'm more opportunistic, so I'll often buy somewhat random stuff. To me, if it's too much I don't bother, if it's about right and I really want it I'll buy, sometimes even if it's a bit overpriced.
If I think the prices are a good deal I just buy it.

Most dealers who have things priced on the low side already simply give me a little off without me asking.

The ones that make me crazy are ones that do stuff like have a $1 box, with cards priced up to 5-10 but in the same box have the cards priced as marked with nothing to indicate which is which.

nebboy · #6 02-14-2023, 01:13 PM

I always ask about if they have any prewar not on table or who the know that does. Made a few good buys from guys that had some but did care about old card so sold just to rid of it. Also I check entire show over and then comeback to tables of interest. Most shows I walk away with nothing. But love the search.

StraightRaceCards · #7 02-15-2023, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nebboy

I always ask about if they have any prewar not on table or who the know that does. Made a few good buys from guys that had some but did care about old card so sold just to rid of it. Also I check entire show over and then comeback to tables of interest. Most shows I walk away with nothing. But love the search.

Great advice!

I�m a card show newbie as well, the first show I went to last year, I forgot cash and the dealer only wanted cash. Luckily, a n54 member saw me and spotted me the cash and I picked up my Marquard!

Looking forward to the next one in Dallas.

question- at what age did folks start bringing their kids? My boys are not old enough (toddlers), but in a few years it seems like a great way to immerse them in this wonderful hobby!

Matt

notfast · #8 02-15-2023, 10:16 AM

Just be a normal person.

I know this is hard for majority of society today but if you are honest and say what you want/mean, you will get somewhere with 99.9% of the world.

And cash is king.

Johnny630 · #9 02-14-2023, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by timzcardz

On the flip side, the "circle back" mentality can save you a lot of money.

Don't ask how I know.

Maybe but you may also lose out on the card you wanted.

RCMcKenzie · #10 02-14-2023, 01:55 PM

Do y'all tip the dealers? I guess they have those portable credit card machines like at coffee shops where they ask you if you want to tip 15%, 20%, or 30% before you can access the screen to purchase an item.

In case you see a T206 Lumley at a show, you'll need to have 8 large ready, which is a lot of dough to be stumbling across an NFL parking lot with.

rugbymarine · #11 02-14-2023, 04:00 PM

My thoughts from the Philly Show for the last year and a half:

1) Bring cash. I assume some dealers will take electronic payments, but cash just makes everything easier.

2) Be polite. From what I've seen and heard, the bad experiences people reference stem from someone being rude.

3) From my experience, prices are buffed 20-40% over recent online sale comparisons. In 5 trips around the Philly Show (30-40 hours of walking and browsing), I've seen exactly 1 card that was a priced as a bargain. In general, dealers know that they're asking above comparable sales and are almost always willing to bargain if you follow Rule #2.

4) Don't be afraid to make offers. The worst thing that can happen is they say no, but don't forget Rule #2 when negotiating.

5) Have a way to protect valuables (cash, cards, etc). Some use those big cases, but make sure you are mindful of your surroundings.

6) Kind of goes along with Rule #2, but be respectful of the dealer's time and space. Don't interrupt if they're talking to someone. I also try not to set anything down on their display cases, unless it's absolutely necessary and I ask first.

JollyElm · #12 02-14-2023, 04:56 PM

As everyone has said, be polite and respectful...but always keep one foot pointed toward the next table to make an easy getaway.

You'll generally run into two basic types of sellers: the somewhat flexible guy who you can work with on price a bit (or maybe a lot?), and the SHARK who's there to Always Be Closing. His prices (if he even has price stickers on the cards you're looking at) will be in the stratosphere to begin with and there's no room for negotiation. Even if he were to move down in price a lot, it would still be 200% higher than anywhere else. Flee him.

If a card you're looking for is available at a nice price, buy it. You can attempt to get the seller to come down a bit, but if it's already in the right neighborhood, don't pass it up, because the next collector who sees it WILL buy it. Regret sucks!

Oh, have fun!!

steve B · #13 02-15-2023, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Do y'all tip the dealers? I guess they have those portable credit card machines like at coffee shops where they ask you if you want to tip 15%, 20%, or 30% before you can access the screen to purchase an item.

In case you see a T206 Lumley at a show, you'll need to have 8 large ready, which is a lot of dough to be stumbling across an NFL parking lot with.

That would be a total deal breaker.

icollectDCsports · #14 02-15-2023, 01:29 PM

Even if you don't find anything to buy (and prepare yourself for that possibility), just enjoy being around all of it -- the stuff and fellow collectors. Worst case is that you have fun doing that.

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