Roberto Clemente Banned in Florida

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

It's not a slippery slope, the law is very explicit with the "any race" standard. It is not a slope, this is the entire point of the legislation, that the races are to be treated the same.

So it is bad, if a teacher teaches this about blacks, and acceptable but maybe not good if they teach it about whites? It is only the one context where it is bad? That's obviously the actual outrage objection to the law and always has been, that there isn't a carve out where it is okay to criticize the race that we want to attack in schools, but to protect the others from the same. I have a difficult time finding it okay to teach racism against a particular race, but that's my hot take.

Well that's a little glib in the name of neutrality, whites as a race obviously have not faced prejudice in this country to the extent blacks have, so you wouldn't expect any scholarship in the other direction.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well that's a little glib in the name of neutrality, whites as a race obviously have not faced prejudice in this country to the extent blacks have, so you wouldn't expect any scholarship in the other direction.

talking in generalities always strange, asians and jews have had enormous racisim as well as many other groups. Not sure why it matters to keep score as to has the most, if you face it its personal to you..you dont care about any group of people who face it 'more' overall..

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well that's a little glib in the name of neutrality, whites as a race obviously have not faced prejudice in this country to the extent blacks have, so you wouldn't expect any scholarship in the other direction.

And yet, here we are, with a national outrage that teachers in a state have been banned from advocating racism against any race in the classroom, because we want to teach racism against one and only one race.

If this bill's any race provision was simply reworded to exclude white races from the same protection as every other race, this bill would be a darling of the left. Which is the entire point of it, and the rage bait troll.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

And yet, here we are, with a national outrage that teachers in a state have been banned from advocating racism against any race in the classroom, because we want to teach racism against one and only one race.

If this bill's any race provision was simply reworded to exclude white races from the same protection as every other race, this bill would be a darling of the left. Which is the entire point of it, and the rage bait troll.

Well we can agree to disagree then because I think the intent is pretty clear despite the neutral wording. Clearly a political ploy and I do think some of the concerns are well founded. Very enjoyable and informative discussion from my perspective, thank you.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well we can agree to disagree then because I think the intent is pretty clear despite the neutral wording. Clearly a political ploy and I do think some of the concerns are well founded. Very enjoyable and informative discussion from my perspective, thank you.

Thank you Peter. It’s always fun, even if we never agree lol

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Thank you Peter. It’s always fun, even if we never agree lol

Well, I think we did agree that the judge probably overstated the case on the reach of the text.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well we can agree to disagree then because I think the intent is pretty clear despite the neutral wording. Clearly a political ploy and I do think some of the concerns are well founded. Very enjoyable and informative discussion from my perspective, thank you.

right and political ploy on a bunch of the criticism. , heck the title of this thread is misleading....you would think that any mention of roberto clemente is banned in florida ..