1954 Bowman #66 Ted Williams Grading Advice

[raulus]

How are you planning to sell it? eBay buy it now? eBay auction? Net54 B/S/T or auction? Some other venue? And how soon do you need the cash?

I would be inclined to try to sell it at the current grade using a price that works for you, either with eBay buy it now, net54 B/S/T, or some other venue where you can control the price (I hear fakebook may also be an option).

I suspect that someone who likes the eye appeal of your card will be willing to pay a premium over other examples at the same grade that are less visually appealing. But it might take a little while to sell, so you'll need to be patient.

As has already been mentioned, the reports are that SGC has been tough on centering lately, which is probably reason enough to not go there.

There's certainly a bit of a twist on the peter principle at play when it comes to graded cards, where they get resubmitted until they finally get the grade that the submitter thinks they deserve. The only trouble is that if you're spending lots of cash and waiting for months each time, you could end up wasting hundreds of dollars, and wait for several months or years until you finally get there. As such, I would be inclined to not bother with trying to re-submit it, but instead attempt to find a buyer based on one of the above ideas.

For all you know, whoever buys it will either pop it out of the case anyway because they only want raw cards, or because they plan to attempt to re-submit it themselves to get a higher grade. And you can let them invest the time and cash into getting there.

[capt14k]

Originally Posted by raulus

How are you planning to sell it? eBay buy it now? eBay auction? Net54 B/S/T or auction? Some other venue? And how soon do you need the cash?

I would be inclined to try to sell it at the current grade using a price that works for you, either with eBay buy it now, net54 B/S/T, or some other venue where you can control the price (I hear fakebook may also be an option).

I suspect that someone who likes the eye appeal of your card will be willing to pay a premium over other examples at the same grade that are less visually appealing. But it might take a little while to sell, so you'll need to be patient.

As has already been mentioned, the reports are that SGC has been tough on centering lately, which is probably reason enough to not go there.

There's certainly a bit of a twist on the peter principle at play when it comes to graded cards, where they get resubmitted until they finally get the grade that the submitter thinks they deserve. The only trouble is that if you're spending lots of cash and waiting for months each time, you could end up wasting hundreds of dollars, and wait for several months or years until you finally get there. As such, I would be inclined to not bother with trying to re-submit it, but instead attempt to find a buyer based on one of the above ideas.

For all you know, whoever buys it will either pop it out of the case anyway because they only want raw cards, or because they plan to attempt to re-submit it themselves to get a higher grade. And you can let them invest the time and cash into getting there.

Good points. Honestly I never had cards graded until a couple weeks ago, and mainly on the advice of others, and what I see graded cards sell for.

I sent 1954 Mantle to PSA and got a 5. Then I sent about 20 cards to SGC and got 5-8 on them, I was ok with the grades. The 3 on Williams made me go back to my original feelings about graded cards, and those doing the grading. I never needed some overweight dork telling me what a card's grade and value is.

Unfortunately it seems most will only buy graded cards, and they pay a ridiculous amount more for them. Recently I bought a lot of cards already graded for the set to upgrade the set. However Grading and over saturatuion is why I stopped collecting cards in the first place.

I have been selling my collection for over a year. Started with wax, then average sets, now I'm onto higher end sets and singles. I'm not in a huge rush, but I am tired of storing cards. Most funds will just get reinvested in my current collection which is military firearms. So the sooner I sell the sooner I can get a Matching Wartime PPK lol.

I likely will post on ebay buy it now and Net54 at 10% less than ebay.


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[G1911]

Originally Posted by capt14k

the sooner I sell the sooner I can get a Matching Wartime PPK lol.

This is the only good reason to sell a Ted Williams baseball card

[JollyElm]

Card grading is such a crapshoot, and it seems to keep getting worse. I suggest you don't waste the money by resubmitting, and just accept the grade as it is and make the move that works best for you with said grade. Since there is only a sliver of white on the bottom, I think most 'normal' (whatever that means) collectors can see how great the card looks other than that, so you should be able to get a nice price for it without paying for repeat opinions from the TPGs.

[capt14k]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Card grading is such a crapshoot, and it seems to keep getting worse. I suggest you don't waste the money by resubmitting, and just accept the grade as it is and make the move that works best for you with said grade. Since there is only a sliver of white on the bottom, I think most 'normal' (whatever that means) collectors can see how great the card looks other than that, so you should be able to get a nice price for it without paying for repeat opinions from the TPGs.

Thank you. I agree. I'm glad I asked before doing. Especially since this is my first foray into grading.


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[capt14k]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Card grading is such a crapshoot, and it seems to keep getting worse. I suggest you don't waste the money by resubmitting, and just accept the grade as it is and make the move that works best for you with said grade. Since there is only a sliver of white on the bottom, I think most 'normal' (whatever that means) collectors can see how great the card looks other than that, so you should be able to get a nice price for it without paying for repeat opinions from the TPGs.

Now I am wondering. Just had a member here compare sales of went through the wash PSA 3 to mine, because as I figured a 3 is a 3 in the minds of those that depend on someone who can't get out of their own way to tell them the grade of a card. I have passed by more 8s buying cards for 1954 Bowman, 1955 Topps, and 1970 Topps sets than I have bid on them. Obviously there are some knowledgeable collectors and I saw that the other night when the same seller with the same card ending a minute apart and the PSA 7 sold for more than the PSA 8. However I think the majority just look at the numbers.

If anyone doesn't know to tell actual sales price of accepted offer on ebay 130point website is a good tool.






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[JollyElm]

The question you have to ask yourself about a resubmission is what realistic chance do you have of getting anything other than a 3, especially with the intensely harsher new grading standards? I imagine PSA would never up the number, considering they haven't even returned it yet from their initial assessment of it as a 3. It would be silly for them to say, "Whoops. We were wrong." And if it's possible a different TPG would up the number a bit, their cards 'always' sell for less, so that would be a wash or worse with the grading fees.

Definitely follow your gut.

[capt14k]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

The question you have to ask yourself about a resubmission is what realistic chance do you have of getting anything other than a 3, especially with the intensely harsher new grading standards? I imagine PSA would never up the number, considering they haven't even returned it yet from their initial assessment of it as a 3. It would be silly for them to say, "Whoops. We were wrong." And if it's possible a different TPG would up the number a bit, their cards 'always' sell for less, so that would be a wash or worse with the grading fees.

Definitely follow your gut.

Good point. Right now I'm most concerned about the 3 vertical scratches that were not there. Hoping they are on the plastic. Would be really happy if they are on the plastic and the grade was lowered during QA step, but that's wishful thinking. If PSA scratched my card I hope they take responsibility. I stand by my initial assessment about grading from 30 years ago. It sucks and it will ruin the hobby, just like it did with coin collecting.


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