My theory on "under-rated" hall of famers

Exhibitman · #1 01-29-2023, 08:29 AM

I favor the overshadowed theory and Ryan's personality theory. I would add Carl Hubbell to the list on both accounts. He was a god in the 1930s with two MVP and leading the league in WHIP six times. And destroyed that killer line-up in the 1933 AS game:

Unfortunately for King Carl, his best years overlapped with Lefty Grove, who is alway on the short list for greatest pitcher of all time. Lefty led the AL in ERA 9 times to The Meal Ticket's 3, had a longer career, had a more productive career, and was just a better player.

Hub also was not colorful. Even though he played in NYC, he wasn't colorful. Grove was known as fiery, aggressive, a genuine red-ass in the clubhouse, and a power pitcher for much of his career (led the league in K's five times, to Carl's 1). Hubbell wasn't any of that. Americans love a colorful personality, even if it is an asshat personality.

Hadda throw in a few Wheaties from one of my favorite sets.

Leon · #2 01-31-2023, 06:11 PM

I have to agree with the sentiments that the most collected players are the ones with the great stories... (and stats, of course)

Hankphenom · #3 01-31-2023, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I favor the overshadowed theory and Ryan's personality theory. I would add Carl Hubbell to the list on both accounts. He was a god in the 1930s with two MVP and leading the league in WHIP six times. And destroyed that killer line-up in the 1933 AS game: Unfortunately for King Carl, his best years overlapped with Lefty Grove, who is alway on the short list for greatest pitcher of all time. Lefty led the AL in ERA 9 times to The Meal Ticket's 3, had a longer career, had a more productive career, and was just a better player. Hub also was not colorful. Even though he played in NYC, he wasn't colorful. Grove was known as fiery, aggressive, a genuine red-ass in the clubhouse, and a power pitcher for much of his career (led the league in K's five times, to Carl's 1). Hubbell wasn't any of that. Americans love a colorful personality, even if it is an asshat personality. Hadda throw in a few Wheaties from one of my favorite sets.

Those are such gorgeous cards!

mrreality68 · #4 02-01-2023, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Those are such gorgeous cards!

and a good addition to the list

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