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Old 01-13-2023, 02:09 PM
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1967 Topps Richie Allen 450 fish eye or 450 degree version……
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Interesting color differences on the front of the '63 McBean. By the way, both have the yellow "A" in the cartoon on the back.
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1967 Topps Richie Allen 450 fish eye or 450 degree version……
4 degrees hotter and it will self-incinerate.
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There is a true variation to the 63 McBean
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I recently picked this up, even though I don't really do Topps cards anymore, I like it...
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Doug has always been a variant oriented guy
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Although there is a front cropping difference on the 63 McBean cards, on the backs there can be either a white or orange A. I am virtually positive it was discussed earlier in this thread, as were the other 63 cropping differences discussed in this Vrechek article

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With the hundreds of Topps variations I used to own (around 1400, I think) it's funny that this is my first 'wrong back'.
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Here is yet another border break in this set.
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.....and this one

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. He is part of one of the best (in my opinion) baseball trivia questions ever, who is the only MLB player to ever hit a home run off of both father and son pitchers?
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Cliff these 1956s with sandy by their ear could there be a whole run of them affected with sandy as the pinnacle of the set?
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1967 Topps - [Base] #575 - High # - Dave Boswell [Must Be Graded]
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May be pricey since it's a high number...
Recurring yellow print dot at the bottom of the N in TWINS.
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Cliff these 1956s with sandy by their ear could there be a whole run of them affected with sandy as the pinnacle of the set?
And the pepper has dirt by his feet?, right?

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One pepper has a giant sand blob by his feet
The other has the exact same sand blob as sandy by his left ear
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See post 2434 for 4 peppers. There are more
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You can see it is a movable situation.
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1970 Topps 104 Gerry Moses - some cards have this black loop at top. It doesn't look to me like it's part of another cards design or name, as these cards aren't badly cut or centered. Doesn't look like it's off nearly enough to show part of another cards design. I don't know what the sheet layoff was, maybe I'm wrong.

This card is a cream type back, as are the other couple I have seen. I haven't looked over a ton of copies, so this may be fairly common.
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1970 Topps 104 Gerry Moses - some cards have this black loop at top. It doesn't look to me like it's part of another cards design or name, as these cards aren't badly cut or centered. Doesn't look like it's off nearly enough to show part of another cards design. I don't know what the sheet layoff was, maybe I'm wrong.

This card is a cream type back, as are the other couple I have seen. I haven't looked over a ton of copies, so this may be fairly common.
That's chipping on that card that makes it look like a loop, it's actually part of the black dividing line that got thick at that point of the line. Not all of the Moses cards with the black line have that flaw, probably different locations on the two Slits.
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That's chipping on that card that makes it look like a loop, it's actually part of the black dividing line that got thick at that point of the line. Not all of the Moses cards with the black line have that flaw, probably different locations on the two Slits.
Thanks Cliff! The 1970 lines are weird, many don't have them at all, some have multiple versions, some sheets had these lines and some didn't.
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Old 01-23-2023, 04:42 AM
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I wish I did, you got a bargain. I believe the 67 Marichal was in the top row of one of the two Slits, that was the cause of the damage to the name on the back.
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Default Ok, where is this variation, then?

I have been searching for what seems like an eternity for the 1970 Topps Alyea
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I have the ball and the no ball versions. The only place I have ever seen the middle variation is on the BB Card Variation Guide Book site.

So, is this a one off? Or do I keep looking? I appreciate your inputs regarding this card.

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and some are white, right?
So are the black lines only on the outside borders....and they are sloppy, like the original layouts were pencil or pen. I feel that where there are those bigger marks is where the pen/pencil came up and the next went down. Like when you are marking a 8 ft board with a 2 ft ruler?

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I personally don't pay much attention to the endless variety of different printing anomalies that can be found on most cards, but if you enjoy those kinda things, here's something new I noticed on one of my graded 1973 Topps #174 Rich Gossage Rookies. I searched around a while and located another example relatively quickly on eBay (below), so it is recurring and assumedly pretty rare as far as these things go.

A spectral blue orb hovers right below the Goose's pitching hand...

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and some are white, right?
So are the black lines only on the outside borders....and they are sloppy, like the original layouts were pencil or pen. I feel that where there are those bigger marks is where the pen/pencil came up and the next went down. Like when you are marking a 8 ft board with a 2 ft ruler?

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The lines are between certain sections on the 70's, and some other sets.

The entire process was essentially hand done. If the lines are at the top and bottom of the slits - groups of cards produced together, usually 3-4 rows of 11 if I remember them right. Then the dark line would be a gap between the large negative for the different slits.
The negatives get placed on an opaque backing paper and the whole thing is called the mask.
White lines would be where the mask blocked the overlappping area.
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Can anyone educate me on what the black is at the top of the card?

Not to mention there are print dots down his right arm in the small photo and and one on his left arm as well.
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Not to mention there are print dots down his right arm in the small photo and and one on his left arm as well.
It's some print on the top border of the sheet
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I have been searching for what seems like an eternity for the 1970 Topps Alyea

blob (for want of a better word) backed card.



I have the ball and the no ball versions. The only place I have ever seen the middle variation is on the BB Card Variation Guide Book site.



So, is this a one off? Or do I keep looking? I appreciate your inputs regarding this card.



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Butch,

I looked at like 30 1970 Alyeas that I have and all were either the full ball or no ball.

...also sharing some 1967 print vars- while at the same time alerting the yellow print fades police....siren blaring.

Can I retire after finding that Monteagudo?

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Thanks Ed,

I am beginning to believe it is a one off. Even Mr. Dingman does not have it.

As for your find? "Can I retire after finding that Monteagudo?"

Sorry, rest up a bit and get back in there! Awesome find.

Cheers,

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Default Never ending 75 Topps Brent Strom version addition

I just received this version today. Did not get it for the autograph, got it for the red/green dot on his eyelid. Reasonably sure it is a one off, but it goes in to the book for me.

Eventually, possibly, I will scan all the different ones I have come across. He is reaching Gaylord Perry territory. Larry has a couple that I am lacking and looking for.

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I finally got my cards into binders after many years traipsing them around the country in boxes. Finally looks nice to have them all bound and shelved.

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I don’t know about that, but I sure could use it as an upgrade, mine is brutal.
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I just received this version today. Did not get it for the autograph, got it for the red/green dot on his eyelid. Reasonably sure it is a one off, but it goes in to the book for me.

Eventually, possibly, I will scan all the different ones I have come across. He is reaching Gaylord Perry territory. Larry has a couple that I am lacking and looking for.

Happy Friday.

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Well, I can tell you about one I don't have, that would be your most recent pickup. None of my copies have the colored spot above Brent's left eye. Definitely unique, great pickup.
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I don’t know about that, but I sure could use it as an upgrade, mine is brutal.
Cliff,

Hi I am currently working on a 1967 set; more than happy to trade you the Monteguedo if it can help both of us (not sure of your stock). Should I dm you my list?

Also open to selling it (to buy 1967's for my set) ..retirement still on hold
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I finally picked up this 71 Topps Ken Henderson variation. I foolishly thought I had gotten one about 3 months ago until it was delivered and it was a bait and switch. Photo was the variation, card I received was not the variation. Not worth it for what was paid to hassle with a return. But, This one is the read deal. Sweet!

Another one checked off the list.

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Any of our printing experts know what’s up with these? For many years you can find cards with this same recurring ‘green circle with a red dot in the middle of it’ mark. I have a number of them, seems something more specific than random stray ink because of how many years it appears and how specific the combination of colors in the mark is. Just curious
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As for
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Any of our printing experts know what’s up with these? For many years you can find cards with this same recurring ‘green circle with a red dot in the middle of it’ mark. I have a number of them, seems something more specific than random stray ink because of how many years it appears and how specific the combination of colors in the mark is. Just curious
It's a fisheye on the red or magenta layer. Yellow and cyan are usually printed earlier, so you have a greenish image. A bit of debris on the offset blanket gets inked, and prints but prevents the area around it from printing.
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1967 topps 551 doug camilli……with faded broken black boarder and team name and purple roller mark in middle of card
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1967 topps 559 dick tracewski…….faded broken black left boarder
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1967 topps 566 gary geiger……faded broken black boarder and team name
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1967 topps 524 Felix mantilla……faded “u” in cubs with yellow splash and blue in left side of hair…….I found one similar on eBay but no blue spot in hair just yellow in cubs….bottom picture
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I understand that many of the higher numbered 1976 Topps cards can be found with "blue snow". This Al Oliver card has a few flurries.
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Yes!! The 76 Topps Blue Dots! I was thinking Oliver had more than that, there are probably varying degrees, I will check mine tonight.
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Huge start even if it ends at 450 huge premium so far
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Here's my 76 Topps Blue Dots Al Oliver. It's a little more afflicted, it even got into the the mustard yellow name plate.
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Can you believe the size of the head on that Dick Tracewski
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