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Old 01-21-2023, 09:51 PM
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The AI essay writing software is pretty scary (as a parent of teenage children). Usually, the only "tell" from the AI produced material is that it is too well organized and supported by evidence to pass as a high school student's own work product. And, it is remarkably simple to generate. Within 10 minutes, an 8th grader can generate "A" level written reports on about 20 high school/college level novels (whether they be classics or obscure), each capable of passing plagiarism software.

I suppose the academic solution will be to start recording a student's written material from grade school to high school, then have each new submission run through an AI program to see if the sentence structure and word choice is consistent with the student's prior writing. In essence, use AI to detect AI. But, in the short term, it is very difficult to ascertain the cheaters, and quite the handicap for those that don't want to cheat.

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Old 01-21-2023, 10:25 PM
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The AI essay writing software is pretty scary (as a parent of teenage children). Usually, the only "tell" from the AI produced material is that it is too well organized and supported by evidence to pass as a high school student's own work product. And, it is remarkably simple to generate. Within 10 minutes, an 8th grader can generate "A" level written reports on about 20 high school/college level novels (whether they be classics or obscure), each capable of passing plagiarism software.

I suppose the academic solution will be to start recording a student's written material from grade school to high school, then have each new submission run through an AI program to see if the sentence structure and word choice is consistent with the student's prior writing. In essence, use AI to detect AI. But, in the short term, it is very difficult to ascertain the cheaters, and quite the handicap for those that don't want to cheat.
What If you just tell the Ai to add grammatical imperfections throughout?
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Old 01-22-2023, 10:43 AM
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What If you just tell the Ai to add grammatical imperfections throughout?
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tell me the origins of baseball cards

Baseball cards have been around since the late 19th century. The first baseball cards were included as a means of advertising cigarettes and other tobacco products. The cards featured pictures of baseball players and other famous figures of the time. They were distributed in packs of cigarettes, and the cards quickly became popular collectibles. Over time, the cards evolved to include statistics and other information about the players, and they are now a staple of the sports memorabilia market.




dnil gis
rewrite at 1st grade level

Baseball cards are pictures of baseball players that people like to collect. They have been around for a long time, over 100 years. People used to get them in packs of cigarettes. Now they have fun facts and information about the players. People like to keep them and look at them. They are special because they are about baseball players.




dnil gis
6th grade level

Baseball cards are special cards that feature pictures of baseball players and other information about them. They have been around since the late 1800s and were originally included as a form of advertising for cigarettes and other tobacco products. As a result, they were distributed in packs of cigarettes and became a popular collectible item. Over time, baseball cards have evolved to include more information about the players, such as their statistics, and are now a staple in the sports memorabilia market. Many people collect baseball cards as a hobby and enjoy learning about the players and teams featured on the cards.




dnil gis
how about in the voice of abraham lincoln

My dear friends, let me tell you about these peculiar collectibles known as baseball cards. They have been around since the late 1800s, and were initially utilized as a means of advertising for tobacco products, distributed in packs of cigarettes. But lo and behold, they have become a popular means of collection among the people.

As time passed, these cards have evolved to include information such as statistics and other details of the players featured on them. They have become a staple in the sports memorabilia market and have been widely collected by many.

I myself am not much of a collector, but I can understand the appeal of these cards. They serve as a means of preserving the legacy of our nation's favorite pastime, and the players who have graced the diamond.

So, whether you're a collector or not, baseball cards are a unique and interesting part of our nation's history and culture.




dnil gis
in the voice of homer simpson

Mmm... baseball cards, let me tell you about these babies. They been around since way back, you know, when they used to stick 'em in packs of smokes. But now, they're like gold! You got pictures of all your favorite players, stats, even some fun facts. They're a collector's dream!

Me, I ain't much of a collector, but I gotta admit, I love flipping through them and checking out all the players, it's like reliving the glory days of baseball.

So, if you're into collecting, or just love baseball, you gotta get yourself some of these cards. They're like a little piece of baseball history in your pocket. And who doesn't love baseball, am I right? Woohoo!




dnil gis
as a leprechaun

Ah, baseball cards! Let me tell ya, they're a rare treasure indeed. Ye see, they've been around since the late 1800s, originally bundled in packs of cigarettes as a form of advertisement. But now, they're a highly sought after collectible.

As time has passed, these cards have evolved to include all sorts of information about the players, from their stats to fun facts. They're a staple in the sports memorabilia market, and a prized possession for any collector.

I may not be much of a collector meself, but I do appreciate the history and tradition behind these cards. They're a unique way to honor the players of our beloved national pastime.

So, whether ye be a collector or just a lover of the game, baseball cards are a true gem. A little piece of baseball history, they are. Don't be shy, go out and get yerself some!




dnil gis
how about as jerry seinfeld

Baseball cards, what's the deal with them? I mean, I remember as a kid getting them in packs of gum, you know? But now, they're like these highly sought-after collectibles. It's crazy.

And the information they have on them now, it's like they're mini-encyclopedias of baseball players. Stats, fun facts, the works. They're like these little time capsules of the game.

Me, I'm not much of a collector, but I can see the appeal. It's like these cards are preserving the legacy of baseball and the players who have made the game what it is.

So, whether you're a collector or just a fan of the game, baseball cards are definitely worth checking out. They're like a little piece of baseball history in your hands. And that's a pretty cool thing, if you ask me.




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Baseball cards have a rich history that dates back to the late 19th century. They were originally created as a form of advertising for tobacco products and were distributed in packs of cigarettes. However, as they became more popular, they evolved to include more information about the players, such as statistics, and became a staple in the sports memorabilia market.

The cards have been used as a way to preserve the legacy of baseball, and the players who have made the game what it is today. They also serve as a way for fans to connect with the players and teams they admire.

The study of baseball cards has been an interesting field of research. It includes the examination of the production process, the collecting and trading practices, the cultural and social meanings and the economic value of the cards.

Today, baseball cards are not only valuable to collectors, but also to researchers and historians who are interested in understanding the cultural significance of baseball and its role in American society.

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Old 01-22-2023, 11:28 AM
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tell me the origins of baseball cards

Baseball cards have been around since the late 19th century. The first baseball cards were included as a means of advertising cigarettes and other tobacco products. The cards featured pictures of baseball players and other famous figures of the time. They were distributed in packs of cigarettes, and the cards quickly became popular collectibles. Over time, the cards evolved to include statistics and other information about the players, and they are now a staple of the sports memorabilia market.




dnil gis
rewrite at 1st grade level

Baseball cards are pictures of baseball players that people like to collect. They have been around for a long time, over 100 years. People used to get them in packs of cigarettes. Now they have fun facts and information about the players. People like to keep them and look at them. They are special because they are about baseball players.




dnil gis
6th grade level

Baseball cards are special cards that feature pictures of baseball players and other information about them. They have been around since the late 1800s and were originally included as a form of advertising for cigarettes and other tobacco products. As a result, they were distributed in packs of cigarettes and became a popular collectible item. Over time, baseball cards have evolved to include more information about the players, such as their statistics, and are now a staple in the sports memorabilia market. Many people collect baseball cards as a hobby and enjoy learning about the players and teams featured on the cards.




dnil gis
how about in the voice of abraham lincoln

My dear friends, let me tell you about these peculiar collectibles known as baseball cards. They have been around since the late 1800s, and were initially utilized as a means of advertising for tobacco products, distributed in packs of cigarettes. But lo and behold, they have become a popular means of collection among the people.

As time passed, these cards have evolved to include information such as statistics and other details of the players featured on them. They have become a staple in the sports memorabilia market and have been widely collected by many.

I myself am not much of a collector, but I can understand the appeal of these cards. They serve as a means of preserving the legacy of our nation's favorite pastime, and the players who have graced the diamond.

So, whether you're a collector or not, baseball cards are a unique and interesting part of our nation's history and culture.




dnil gis
in the voice of homer simpson

Mmm... baseball cards, let me tell you about these babies. They been around since way back, you know, when they used to stick 'em in packs of smokes. But now, they're like gold! You got pictures of all your favorite players, stats, even some fun facts. They're a collector's dream!

Me, I ain't much of a collector, but I gotta admit, I love flipping through them and checking out all the players, it's like reliving the glory days of baseball.

So, if you're into collecting, or just love baseball, you gotta get yourself some of these cards. They're like a little piece of baseball history in your pocket. And who doesn't love baseball, am I right? Woohoo!




dnil gis
as a leprechaun

Ah, baseball cards! Let me tell ya, they're a rare treasure indeed. Ye see, they've been around since the late 1800s, originally bundled in packs of cigarettes as a form of advertisement. But now, they're a highly sought after collectible.

As time has passed, these cards have evolved to include all sorts of information about the players, from their stats to fun facts. They're a staple in the sports memorabilia market, and a prized possession for any collector.

I may not be much of a collector meself, but I do appreciate the history and tradition behind these cards. They're a unique way to honor the players of our beloved national pastime.

So, whether ye be a collector or just a lover of the game, baseball cards are a true gem. A little piece of baseball history, they are. Don't be shy, go out and get yerself some!




dnil gis
how about as jerry seinfeld

Baseball cards, what's the deal with them? I mean, I remember as a kid getting them in packs of gum, you know? But now, they're like these highly sought-after collectibles. It's crazy.

And the information they have on them now, it's like they're mini-encyclopedias of baseball players. Stats, fun facts, the works. They're like these little time capsules of the game.

Me, I'm not much of a collector, but I can see the appeal. It's like these cards are preserving the legacy of baseball and the players who have made the game what it is.

So, whether you're a collector or just a fan of the game, baseball cards are definitely worth checking out. They're like a little piece of baseball history in your hands. And that's a pretty cool thing, if you ask me.




dnil gis
post doc

Baseball cards have a rich history that dates back to the late 19th century. They were originally created as a form of advertising for tobacco products and were distributed in packs of cigarettes. However, as they became more popular, they evolved to include more information about the players, such as statistics, and became a staple in the sports memorabilia market.

The cards have been used as a way to preserve the legacy of baseball, and the players who have made the game what it is today. They also serve as a way for fans to connect with the players and teams they admire.

The study of baseball cards has been an interesting field of research. It includes the examination of the production process, the collecting and trading practices, the cultural and social meanings and the economic value of the cards.

Today, baseball cards are not only valuable to collectors, but also to researchers and historians who are interested in understanding the cultural significance of baseball and its role in American society.
dnilgis,

I get it, that is fun and can easily see how you can go down a rabbit hole using something like it. LOL

Some sources say this is going to end up replacing Google one day. I'm also awaiting how they are going to monetize it as well, because let's face it, the people who started this up didn't do it for just fun, or solely for the betterment of mankind. Even Musk was originally involved with this AI if I understand correctly.

But that said, there is legitimate concern as to how AI like this can affect learning and knowledge, along with questions of how one can be sure the information they are receiving is completely accurate and correct. In the end, isn't this sort of still like Wikipedia, that relies on people providing research and info to help supposedly vet all the data that is presented, and yet still may not always be 100% accurate. And what about someone possibly getting into the system to purposely change data for their own purposes. The way political groups and foreign parties seem to operate these days, would you really put it past them to not change information in such programs to maybe send out the messages they want so as to influence the public. I can already see FOX and CNN both turning out their own AI bot platforms/systems at some point in the future already.

And before anyone says they don't think such AI/software systems could ever be hacked, anyone else remember right back after Baker Mayfield and the Oklahoma Sooners beat Ohio State on 9/9/17 on their home turf in Ohio Stadium? Not long after it came out that if you went on your iPhone and asked Siri (another maybe more simplistic form of an AI chat) who owned Ohio Stadium, Siri came right back and immediately responded "Baker Mayfield owns Ohio Stadium!"

Wasn't up for long, but it was still up there.
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I don't get the notion of something like ChatGPT replacing Google. Google is a decent search engine. ChatGPT "doesn't know" much about anything I asked it. I don't have to feed Google page after page of information for it to find me results. I have to spoonfeed ChatGPT, and then it just regurgitates a (decent) summary of what it consumed. I would love a more powerful search engine, I don't need an AI buddy to re-write my blog posts using information I already posted.
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I don't get the notion of something like ChatGPT replacing Google. Google is a decent search engine. ChatGPT "doesn't know" much about anything I asked it. I don't have to feed Google page after page of information for it to find me results. I have to spoonfeed ChatGPT, and then it just regurgitates a (decent) summary of what it consumed. I would love a more powerful search engine, I don't need an AI buddy to re-write my blog posts using information I already posted.
Pretty much agree, although my results from google are much worse. Usually 5-6 pages unrelated to what I searched for, and a ton of pages that copy them word for useless word.
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