Help: What grade will be given this 1913 PCL?

[Casey2296]

SGC 1 IMO. When it comes to Zeenuts TPGs delineate between cards that were produced with a coupon to be removed and trimming.

[lowpopper]

rare stamp on back

[OLDBILL]

Thanks everyone for the kind advice and your time!!

[pete zouras]

Similar to drawing found inside an old spelling book.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

SGC 1 IMO. When it comes to Zeenuts TPGs delineate between cards that were produced with a coupon to be removed and trimming.

+1 agree think a 1

[butchie_t]

If I was to send it in? It would probably come back ungraded.

So you have a much better chance of getting a grade “A” or probably a 1.

Good Luck

[rhettyeakley]

It will get a 1 (or possibly an A because of the ripped portion, they aren’t consistent with that.)

No reason Zeenuts should not be given a numerical grade. If a Bazooka, Post Cereal, Jello, or Hostess card can get a numerical grade having had all 4 edges trimmed (as intended) then Zeenut cards should be graded as well. They should specify, however, that it is without the coupon.

I like the artwork on the back! A rare glimpse into the life of a young child in 1913!

[rhettyeakley]

Also want to add that IMO the Zeenut series is akin to the N172 Old Judge series due to size and breadth of the set. Most collectors I know of the series (myself included) are far more interested in “eye appeal” than technical grades. I would take a clean front example with writing or damage to the otherwise usually blank back over a card with creasing or heavy wear to the front image despite the probable lower technical grade of the card with writing/damage.

My collection of Zee’s now numbers north of 3,000 cards and the reality of having that many graded cards from one series would necessitate a new wing on my house… thus (for me) ungraded is preferable. I am sure that sentiment will be lost over the years, however.

[Scocs]

Which is the front and which is the back of the card?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Also want to add that IMO the Zeenut series is akin to the N172 Old Judge series due to size and breadth of the set. Most collectors I know of the series (myself included) are far more interested in “eye appeal” than technical grades. I would take a clean front example with writing or damage to the otherwise usually blank back over a card with creasing or heavy wear to the front image despite the probable lower technical grade of the card with writing/damage.

My collection of Zee’s now numbers north of 3,000 cards and the reality of having that many graded cards from one series would necessitate a new wing on my house… thus (for me) ungraded is preferable. I am sure that sentiment will be lost over the years, however.

That is a lot of Z's ....

They should just grade them and put a numerical grade and the tagline with coupon or without coupon. And if someone really wants to do a registry thing with them, maybe they only count ones with a coupon?

I think the card in question in the first post, would probably receive a 1. Maybe an AUT...
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[RCMcKenzie]

Looks like a Picasso on the back. I would not erase it. Nice card.