1989 Fleer Randy Johnson #381 Marlboro Errors - 30 Years Later

[Statfreak101]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16587205026...Bk9SR9rX-v6wYQ

Pardon my language, but is this a fucking joke?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Statfreak101

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16587205026...Bk9SR9rX-v6wYQ

Pardon my language, but is this a fucking joke?

Yes and no. That is just the normal quality of grading by PSA. On the other hand I love screw ups so I will be bidding on it.

[Statfreak101]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Yes and no. That is just the normal quality of grading by PSA. On the other hand I love screw ups so I will be bidding on it.

It just ticks me off when I am sitting on a mountain of clearer Marlboro ads that were labeled as "partial" and then I see this nonsense.

What a joke.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by Statfreak101

It just ticks me off when I am sitting on a mountain of clearer Marlboro ads that were labeled as "partial" and then I see this nonsense.

What a joke.

Agreed. It doesn't make sense to me either. Obviously they just don't care. In my opinion I would rather they ditched their labeling convention on the card entirely if they can't apply it consistently (and communicate the convention to collectors). At least then people wouldn't be confused by inconsistencies in labeling the exact same variation multiple ways.

[steve5838]

It can be a little difficult to see the "Marlboro" letters in blue stencil (i.e., negative) version cards shown in posts #284 and #301. As my eyes get worse I need to tilt the card just so in the light for the letters to appear clearly. I just found that if you shine a black light on the sign the letters stand out immediately and quite clearly. In case anyone is interested, here are a couple pics showing the cards with my black light pen shining on the signs.

Unless the lights are on bright in a room it can be hard to differentiate versions outside of the clear one. This little trick with the blacklight should help me find the blue stencil ones quickly from now on.

[bnorth]

That is a great tip. Any idea how many are known? They are a fairly new version to me.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That is a great tip. Any idea how many are known? They are a fairly new version to me.

I'm only aware of 4 of these blue stencil cards currently (I have 2 light blue stencils and 1 dark blue (which is a more "blue box" like stencil) and Hatorade I believe has has one dark blue one). However it is a more obscure version that people may not immediately realize they have (unlike the blue/turquoise tint, and clear versions which immediately stand out). You had mentioned to me that the 2 blue stencil cards (one with darker blue and one with lighter blue) are really the same version - and the difference between them is the ink level. In that case I would expect many more of these to be out there somewhere with varying degrees of blue ink level between the dark and light ones I have.

Hopefully this blacklight "trick" will help more come out of the woodwork. If anyone finds any of these blue stencil cards it would be great if you could post pics of the signs on the cards for comparison. For this purpose the blacklight trick works really well too.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Statfreak101

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16587205026...Bk9SR9rX-v6wYQ

Pardon my language, but is this a fucking joke?

This card just sold and went for more than I would pay. Any guesses on what version it actually is? It is obviously not a corrected version.

[Statfreak101]

Originally Posted by bnorth

This card just sold and went for more than I would pay. Any guesses on what version it actually is? It is obviously not a corrected version.

How can you say it is not a corrected version based on the pictures in the listing?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Statfreak101

How can you say it is not a corrected version based on the pictures in the listing?

Look above his left ear and tell me that is a corrected version.

[Statfreak101]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Look above his left ear and tell me that is a corrected version.

Gotcha.

I don't view that card and the one without the gap between his ear as anything significant. Point of my original post was that this is no way, in any possible manner, an ad visible card.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Statfreak101

Gotcha.

I don't view that card and the one without the gap between his ear as anything significant. Point of my original post was that this is no way, in any possible manner, an ad visible card.

The gap just means it is anything but the corrected version. I would guess it is one of the super dark green box cards.

[Statfreak101]

Originally Posted by bnorth

The gap just means it is anything but the corrected version. I would guess it is one of the super dark green box cards.

That isn't necessarily true - there are black/corrected (not the final version) versions without the gap that show no ad or box.