Should Some Interference Be Allowed In The BST Areas?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I'll clarify, I always list my cards at a fair price based on comps because that is, in my understanding, the nature of BST, a group of collectors that treat each other with respect, integrity, and fairness. In my particular case the buyer, who has a substantial collection comped a recent Cobb Exhibit at a much lower grade to make his offer, pretty much insulting my intelligence thinking I was a Rube (no insult to the Waddell family intended), showed me who he was as a human and I decided I don't want to do business with folks like that

The great part is there are numerous members here who will interact with those same somewhat rare by today's standard principles, those are the folks that make this sub great.

This is why I check. That example, a buyer using materially misleading comps as a negotiation tactic, is completely different from the example in this thread where a seller is lying by omission and using a manufactured and materially misleading list of comps.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by G1911

This is why I check. That example, a buyer using materially misleading comps as a negotiation tactic, is completely different from the example in this thread where a seller is lying by omission and using a manufactured and materially misleading list of comps.

It's the same, whether a buyer or seller is using misleading comps.

Here's the thing about this place, 100 year old cardboard images are just a vehicle, it's how we treat each other that is the true test of character.

[uyu906]

I vote for opening it up. Comment board courtesy should be enforced in BST, but nothing more. I never understood the "everyone hands off" policy of the BST anyway.

[Rich Falvo]

I like the idea, up to a point. If someone makes a factual statement in a sale listing and is challenged with a factual rebuttal, that's probably good. But, I can see it devolving into people making generic comments like "you're way too high" or "what a ripoff".

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

It's the same, whether a buyer or seller is using misleading comps.

Here's the thing about this place, 100 year old cardboard images are just a vehicle, it's how we treat each other that is the true test of character.

I get what you are saying, but it is the opposite of the situation; as written the original statement benefits greatly from your clarification that you are talking about a 180 reversal of the situation.

I don't think anyone would disagree that cardboard images are not a reflection of character, while personal conduct is. This is why it seems like a good idea to allow lies to be publicly observed.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by G1911

I get what you are saying, but it is the opposite of the situation; as written the original statement benefits greatly from your clarification that you are talking about a 180 reversal of the situation.

I don't think anyone would disagree that cardboard images are not a reflection of character, while personal conduct is. This is why it seems like a good idea to allow lies to be publicly observed.

It's not a lie, it's an abuse of the truth and a bush league sales tactic that insults intelligent members here.
I would also caution that allowing members to comment on BST listings is a Pandora's box of personal opinions which have nothing to do with a transaction between a buyer and seller.

[steve B]

Considering how cranky some people are being lately, I'm not sure it's a good idea.

I don't often have a chance to deal with expensive collectibles either buying or selling. But on those occasions, I like to know the comps myself, relying on any seller for that info is just not something I do. Especially if the item is hundreds or thousands of dollars.
With my cheap stuff, I don't bother. If someone says "I want $2 because the ones I had at $1 sold almost instantly what matters more is if I want that particular card right then.

Another thing to consider is that comps aren't always accurate comps.
For example, how many threads do we have comparing two cards at a particular grade- "Which is better" "which one would you keep" Etc.
So are the three comps listed really similar in centering etc, and are the ones not mentioned examples with maybe better corners and lesser centering? Or some other differences?

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Here's the thing about this place, 100 year old cardboard images are just a vehicle, it's how we treat each other that is the true test of character.

A test that is not always passed, and sometimes is failed spectacularly. But I don't recall any incivility on BST threads in the time I've been on here.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

A test that is not always passed, and sometimes is failed spectacularly. But I don't recall any incivility on BST threads in the time I've been on here.

Ask Leon how many times he's had to check members comments.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Ask Leon how many times he's had to check members comments.

On BST threads, you mean?

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

On BST threads, you mean?

100%. Kevin Mize is a perfect example, douchebag extraordinary but allowed to run his game as he should have until he ran too far.

[Eric72]

“The Nun’s Wagner” is an extreme example of a BST thread gone wild.

There are other, less bizarre cases. Point is, yes, it has happened before.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

100%. Kevin Mize is a perfect example, douchebag extraordinary but allowed to run his game as he should have until he ran too far.

I don't remember him but I found all his old posts. The internet is forever...