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Old 12-31-2022, 07:36 PM
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You were correct in my opinion. You want an item just say you’ll take it. Why risk losing a full price sale? You got the first guy jerking around asking questions and not wanting to pay full ask. I’m not saying that isn’t ok but you run a risk of losing an item. Who knows if he was even serious? The “negotiator “ has no reason to be upset. Done.


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Old 12-31-2022, 07:44 PM
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Anyone who tries to negotiate — nothing wrong with that — takes the risk that someone else will come along and sweep it up for full price.
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Old 12-31-2022, 07:55 PM
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Along with the disclaimer in the listing it is also helpful if members state their intention in the body of the listing as opposed to just sending a pm.
"I'll take it" means it's sold imo, if I want the card I'll post a "back up" and send a pm. "PM sent" without the I'll take it tells me they are negotiating and I would feel okay sending a full price offer pm.
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Old 12-31-2022, 09:04 PM
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Along with the disclaimer in the listing it is also helpful if members state their intention in the body of the listing as opposed to just sending a pm.
"I'll take it" means it's sold imo, if I want the card I'll post a "back up" and send a pm. "PM sent" without the I'll take it tells me they are negotiating and I would feel okay sending a full price offer pm.
Yup, more than once I've followed someone elses a "PM sent" post with a private I'll take it if still available at full price message. Until a deal is done and confirmed, all options are open to the seller.

Where I think items can get a bit trickier are when 2 people say they'll take it for the same price before a deal is confirmed. Should you always have to sell to the first person? What if the first person is someone you dont trust/is antagonistic and the second is a good friend? I know there have been a couple board members I would have declined selling items to even if they were the only buyer and offered more than my asking price.
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Old 12-31-2022, 09:14 PM
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Yup, more than once I've followed someone elses a "PM sent" post with a private I'll take it if still available at full price message. Until a deal is done and confirmed, all options are open to the seller.

Where I think items can get a bit trickier are when 2 people say they'll take it for the same price before a deal is confirmed. Should you always have to sell to the first person? What if the first person is someone you dont trust/is antagonistic and the second is a good friend? I know there have been a couple board members I would have declined selling items to even if they were the only buyer and offered more than my asking price.
This is why I include a line that I reserve the right to decline to do business with anyone for any reason. There are a couple nutters with personal vendettas and/or threaten to sue over cognizance of facts they don’t like that I’m not dumb enough to enter a deal with. If you get a “take it” from an individual it is not safe to do business with, one should not feel compelled to let them buy it. Way too much risk.

If a random person says they’ll take it before a friend does, I’d honor the randoms earlier offer.
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Old 12-31-2022, 09:27 PM
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This is why I include a line that I reserve the right to decline to do business with anyone for any reason. There are a couple nutters with personal vendettas and/or threaten to sue over cognizance of facts they don’t like that I’m not dumb enough to enter a deal with. If you get a “take it” from an individual it is not safe to do business with, one should not feel compelled to let them buy it. Way too much risk.

If a random person says they’ll take it before a friend does, I’d honor the randoms earlier offer.
You can write whatever you want to. A seller can sell, or not sell, to whomever they want to. Cry me a river. Life isn't fair!
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Old 12-31-2022, 09:39 PM
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You can write whatever you want to. A seller can sell, or not sell, to whomever they want to. Cry me a river. Life isn't fair!
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Old 01-01-2023, 02:32 PM
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You can write whatever you want to. A seller can sell, or not sell, to whomever they want to. Cry me a river. Life isn't fair!
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This is the way it is done - Perhaps this should be a sticky thread in order to avoid any emotional distress
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Old 12-31-2022, 09:16 PM
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If all that had happened was an offer to which you hadn't even responded, then offer guy has no complaint. If there had been any back & forth then, yeah, you owe him a chance.
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Old 01-01-2023, 02:01 PM
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If all that had happened was an offer to which you hadn't even responded, then offer guy has no complaint. If there had been any back & forth then, yeah, you owe him a chance.
I had not responded, I logged back in and had two messages. One stating from a new member he would take the card at full ask. Another from the member I had been in negotiations asking if I would take “X”. The negotiating member was not very happy, stated “he was in negotiations and we’ve done deals before I should have asked him to take the card at full ask”.

Why would I ask someone to buy my cards at full ask? Seems very backward to me.

I appreciate all the responses. I’ll put a disclaimer in my future posts that “I’ll take it trumps all negotiations”
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Old 01-01-2023, 02:48 PM
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I had not responded, I logged back in and had two messages. One stating from a new member he would take the card at full ask. Another from the member I had been in negotiations asking if I would take “X”. The negotiating member was not very happy, stated “he was in negotiations and we’ve done deals before I should have asked him to take the card at full ask”.
I side with you and have also had this happen to me selling on the BST.
It's not sold until you both agree to the price!
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Old 12-31-2022, 09:21 PM
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Would all your answers change if the buyer had done current & previous business in the past with the seller?

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Old 12-31-2022, 09:39 PM
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Would all your answers change if the buyer had done current & previous business in the past with the seller?
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Old 01-01-2023, 08:04 AM
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Default You transacted ethically

Unwritten rule - "I'll take it trumps negotiations"

Some clarify by writing it, but the rule is implied even if not stated.

The above applies unless or until there is direct communication to the contrary.

For the buyer who missed it - If you want something that bad - then try saying "I'll take it" and am willing to pay your full ask, but wonder if you would be willing to knock a few bucks (X$) off. Sometimes you will be paying full ask, but I suspect sometimes you will get it for a few $$ less.







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Would all your answers change if the buyer had done current & previous business in the past with the seller?
No. Why would/should it?
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Old 01-01-2023, 09:17 AM
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You are 100% in the right. Every card I list I always put in "sold takes it over any negotiations". I have also lost on cards when I was trying to negotiate and someone came in and paid full price. That is how it goes, you do not owe the person that made the offer a "right of first refusal" when someone else meets your price.
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Old 01-01-2023, 09:29 AM
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I had a very excellent interaction with a board member (and I will use his name because he deserves high praise for the way he handled it).... Derek Granger... he was selling some cards a few years ago and said "make offer" ..... I asked him to name his price for 2 of the cards, and he did.... I attempted to get a lower number, but was notified by him that he did not want to go lower and actually had just received an offer for about 20% MORE that he would take if I didnt want to do the deal. I DID accept and was very impressed with his integrity in honoring a price stated despite having a better offer as a back up. This is not the standard but he gets the GOLD STAR for the entire interaction. Id be willing to bet that he has lived his life with integrity and that deal from a few years back has stayed with me as a constant reminder to try and live in the same fashion. Way to go Derek.... by the way I still have the cards and enjoy them very much..... thanks again! Rocky Rockwell
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