Too Much Offense in the NFL

[Peter_Spaeth]

On football reference's HOF monitor, Rice literally has more than DOUBLE the points of the next receiver, Randy Moss. It's more absurd than even Gretzky. That he is the best WR ever is simply beyond any colorable dispute.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_WR.htm

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

On football reference's HOF monitor, Rice literally has more than DOUBLE the points of the next receiver, Randy Moss. It's more absurd than even Gretzky. That he is the best WR ever is simply beyond any colorable dispute.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_WR.htm

+1 agreed and great comparison to show the depth of his greatness

[ClementeFanOh]

Sounds like many of the commenters are swimming in the same waters that I
am, regarding the quality of NFL. I find that league joyless and, most
importantly, BORING. I fit the demographic of someone who "should" watch
and it's not even a thought. Haven't even watched a Super Bowl in 20 years.
Gross, watered down, garbage entertainment- hard pass. Trent King

[1952boyntoncollector]

What about all those 3's in the NBA as well. Why do teams get rewarded for taking a shot thats available without any real offense and is worth 50% more than a 2 point shot. The 3 is available at any time during a shot clock. Also there is no 3 second rule if you just stand there is the corner 3 spot unlike in the Paint for 3 seconds. A lot of the 3's shooters wouldnt play any real minutes in the NBA in the 1990s etc.

[mrreality68]

I like the NFL game and how it has been evolving and i believe in the safety of the players (As best as possible in a full contact sport) but I want it more balanced so both the offense and the defense has a level playing field and less flags flown to keep the flow of the game going. Also the Refs have to be better trained and held accountable to the many suspect calls we have seen this year and in the last few years

[Seven]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

What about all those 3's in the NBA as well. Why do teams get rewarded for taking a shot thats available without any real offense and is worth 50% more than a 2 point shot. The 3 is available at any time during a shot clock. Also there is no 3 second rule if you just stand there is the corner 3 spot unlike in the Paint for 3 seconds. A lot of the 3's shooters wouldnt play any real minutes in the NBA in the 1990s etc.

I think the NBA is an entirely different can of worms. I'll say this much however. When gaudy numbers are being posted night after night, and the Triple-Double has become trivialized, it can be safely said that the sport has jumped the shark.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

What about all those 3's in the NBA as well. Why do teams get rewarded for taking a shot thats available without any real offense and is worth 50% more than a 2 point shot. The 3 is available at any time during a shot clock. Also there is no 3 second rule if you just stand there is the corner 3 spot unlike in the Paint for 3 seconds. A lot of the 3's shooters wouldnt play any real minutes in the NBA in the 1990s etc.

I think the original intent was to allow for something relatively difficult and exceptional to create drama and entertainment, but it's just become way too easy as skill levels have evolved.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think the original intent was to allow for something relatively difficult and exceptional to create drama and entertainment, but it's just become way too easy as skill levels have evolved.

You dont think larry bird could of hit tons of 3s if wanted to and so many of the greats in the past?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

You dont think larry bird could of hit tons of 3s if wanted to and so many of the greats in the past?

Basketball hadn't been "Moneyballed" yet with analytics, to realize it was a much more efficient shot then a mid-range 2.

If it had, Bird would have put up much more 3's. Also, much more hand-checking and physical defense at the perimeter, made a 3 a much tougher shot then it is now.

It's still a tough shot, don't get confused. Most normal people can't hit an NBA length 3 to save their lives. It's just practiced much more now through repetition, then it used to be, from a much younger age by promising young players.

Math has shown us, the only shot that might be more efficient to take, is a dunk...and even then it's pretty damn close.

...and what Steph Curry has done, regularly hitting shots from 5-10 feet beyond the 3 point line...that's...that's not normal. From a physics standpoint it should be nearly impossible. It's more demoralizing then a dunk over your best defensive player, when you try to double team a guy out by the half court line, and he can still get himself free and put up a high value shot (for him anyways).