S/O to this eBay seller/ and whoever messed with it

[notfast]

Seller realizes mistake and makes up excuse saying someone offered more/selling for a family etc.

Guy from this forum “offers” $10k to seller.

Original buyer asks for a name.

Seller gives that $10k offer guys user name.

Guy on this forum says he was just playing a game to see what seller would do.


This is likely what happened. Seller will probably repost the card for sale.

[BKaufmann14]

This is my last post on this thread because it’s gotten confusing so I’ll give you the run down. First off I was unaware I even had two accounts and I was trying to pull some shadiness I wouldn’t make it the same name practically just reversed. The story goes as this: someone posted my buy on here saying it was a steal and someone was lucky. This has been stated in the thread, about 20-30 min later I get an email from the seller saying someone offered more offline (screenshot from original post). I obviously woke up the next morning pissed off and made this thread. As much I wanted the card I wanted to figure out who keeps doing this because this isn’t the first time this has happened. It has happened twice to me by a member who commented on this thread. One was a Mathewson CB and one was tried with a red Hindu McGraw. Since I was annoyed I messaged the seller on eBay and wanted to give him a chat to make it right. He felt bad and I think his story was legit so his hands were somewhat tied. He gave me his number and offered me some more smaller cubs tobacco cards for solid deals to make up for it and we can meet and make amends over lunch in the next few weeks. While we were texting he would not relay the original poster, but said 10-15 min ago that Fred had sent him a 10k offer, and wanted to get my opinion on real value. I still don’t know why Fred would send him an offer even as a joke I just find it weird. Whether I buy, sell, trade or collect I’m a legit person, I’ve done deals with countless people and have genuinely been more than gracious and generous to people… including giving cards away for free, giving refunds on bad grades or altered grades and so forth. I’m sure as hell not the seller of the Cobb, I wish I had a card of that magnitude.


The real Brett Kaufmann

[RCMcKenzie]

I agree with Rob's comment in post 2. How did you know the 'poacher', as you say, was on the thread, when the thread only had your original post, without an edit. Then, Fred, who has been on here a long time, and doesn't talk about T206 on here, as far I know, turns out to be the buyer who ruined your steal, as the other thread starter stated correctly.

I don't buy any stories about selling cards from grandpa's attic on eBay. No way I would send $4500 for a Cobb to an eBayer I didn't know.

[Republicaninmass]

9 times out of 10 when you out an auction here, a net54 user ends up winning it. Still wondering who lost on that uncle Jack's Ruth. Karma

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

9 times out of 10 when you out an auction here, a net54 user ends up winning it. Still wondering who lost on that uncle Jack's Ruth. Karma

this is true

[RCMcKenzie]

Ted and Pete, I may not be up on all the soap operas, but I thought the book store sold the Ruth to a member here, who got it graded, and sold it for less at a big auction house. I agree that we should not talk about ongoing auctions, but if we don't talk about auctions after they are over, then when do we talk about them?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Ted and Pete, I may not be up on all the soap operas, but I thought the book store sold the Ruth to a member here, who got it graded, and sold it for less at a big auction house. I agree that we should not talk about ongoing auctions, but if we don't talk about auctions after they are over, then when do we talk about them?

i believe u r correct in your assessment of the uncle jack ruth scenario from my understanding.

I think it used to be much more frowned upon to "out" or discuss auctions in progress. Over time more people would post current auctions with questions and that might start a discussion sometimes outing a card as bogus or altered...and this is good. Fine line to me. I don't have a problem with it anymore.

Seems many want a "perfect" marketplace when it comes to trading cards...this encourages that.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by BKaufmann14

This is my last post on this thread because it’s gotten confusing so I’ll give you the run down. First off I was unaware I even had two accounts and I was trying to pull some shadiness I wouldn’t make it the same name practically just reversed. The story goes as this: someone posted my buy on here saying it was a steal and someone was lucky. This has been stated in the thread, about 20-30 min later I get an email from the seller saying someone offered more offline (screenshot from original post). I obviously woke up the next morning pissed off and made this thread. As much I wanted the card I wanted to figure out who keeps doing this because this isn’t the first time this has happened. It has happened twice to me by a member who commented on this thread. One was a Mathewson CB and one was tried with a red Hindu McGraw. Since I was annoyed I messaged the seller on eBay and wanted to give him a chat to make it right. He felt bad and I think his story was legit so his hands were somewhat tied. He gave me his number and offered me some more smaller cubs tobacco cards for solid deals to make up for it and we can meet and make amends over lunch in the next few weeks. While we were texting he would not relay the original poster, but said 10-15 min ago that Fred had sent him a 10k offer, and wanted to get my opinion on real value. I still don’t know why Fred would send him an offer even as a joke I just find it weird. Whether I buy, sell, trade or collect I’m a legit person, I’ve done deals with countless people and have genuinely been more than gracious and generous to people… including giving cards away for free, giving refunds on bad grades or altered grades and so forth. I’m sure as hell not the seller of the Cobb, I wish I had a card of that magnitude.


The real Brett Kaufmann

Brett,

Probably my final post on this also. It'd be nice if the seller would tell you who contacted them about the card after the sale. I can assure you, it wasn't me.

I sent the $10K offer to see what he'd do. That offer went out WELL past the time you originally posted this thread. I figured if he screwed you, he'd screw the person that "supposedly" offered up more than the BIN price and screwed you over. Apparently the seller still has the card from what you're indicating. My thought was that if the seller was greedy, then he'd probably screw the other person over but then he'd be stuck with the stuck with the card because I had no intention of buying it.

I have T206s because I collect vintage, but I'm not an aficionado of the set. I honestly have no clue what that card, with that back, is worth. I pulled the $10K number out of thin air.

Timing is everything. I'm assuming you have the multiple N54 ID handles cleared up because you're posting. Leon's a fair guy and I hope it didn't cause you too much consternation.

Since you seem to be buddies with the seller now, ask him when the $10K offer was made. I sent the offer a few minutes after post #32 (way past the time you started this thread). Then within no time you out me as the "poacher". Since people know people's ebay handles in this forum, I really didn't like the implication that I am a "poacher" or would pull some underhanded BS and screw someone out of a nice deal.

I hope you and the seller can work something out. Good luck.

[Republicaninmass]

It happened to me so often I offered a seller $500 to tell me who had contacted him. Pretty frustrating and disheartening when it is someone pretending to be your pal. It didnt surprise me when I caught him shilling off his signed 52 set, and I was more than happy to expose it.

[Jewish-collector]

This forum gets really entertaining when there's drama on ebay or in auction house and all the participants involved are members of Net54. beer chug.gifbeer chug.gifbeer chug.gif