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Old 12-15-2022, 12:02 PM
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I think the BN Ruth exceeds T206 Wagner on hammer price next time it comes up, by a healthy margin. $4,000,000+ maybe.
Many years ago both cards in a PSA 1 were sold in the same auction. Ruth went for $450K and Wagner for $400K. Just can't remember which auction house.
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Old 12-15-2022, 12:12 PM
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Any RC of someone who becomes a HOFer through the veterans committee.

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Old 12-15-2022, 01:27 PM
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I would say Joe Dimaggio's Play Ball and Leaf cards stand a decent chance of rising due to the fact that he played a good portion of his career during the second dead-ball era for collecting (1936-47), and those are arguably the only good looking Dimaggio cards ever issued. On more of a modern take, I think the Jordan Nike Jumpman card that was issued with sneakers has a good chance to take off since it's a pre-rookie card (issued in 1985).
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I think the Jordan Nike Jumpman card that was issued with sneakers has a good chance to take off since it's a pre-rookie card (issued in 1985).
I'll bet your right about this, I didn't know they existed...seen the image but that's it, just was looking on ebay at sold listings and it does seem "cheap" from a gut feel approach. Also it seems cheap when compared relative to his generally accepted rc. Also just think of the historical significance of the jumpman silhouette as depicted on the card. *I do not currently have any interest in said card, just some ramblings on.

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Old 12-15-2022, 06:38 PM
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Anything ultra rare could fit the bill, however an assumption is that the thread is asking to select a card that is somewhat available and auctioned more than once in a blue moon.

Picking anything Ruth, Cobb, Matty, WoJo, Wags or Young would be tough but not ruled out unless it's the T206 Wags because it's already pretty pricey and a huge % increase may not be too likely for that card. Also, sticking with a "card" would eliminate a W600 or other cabinet.

The way things have been trending it will probably be a "high grade" card that could be somewhat widely available but not in a high grade.

T202 Tinker - Evers - Chance in a "9" or "10" grade? It's kind of a cool card because it's actually Tinker >> Evers (center panel) >> Chance from left to right.

No idea. I'd be the last to guess correctly because I've sold so much good stuff before it took off.
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Old 12-15-2022, 08:11 PM
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I was only sort of kidding with the imaginary Wambayama RC,
If we aren't limiting to vintage (whatever that means right now) I do think its a 1/1 card with all of the bells and whistles and autographed by at least one person... Probably its a card from a sport that has international appeal -- soccer (futbol) or maybe basketball. It's got to be a card of someone with boundless potential. Maybe a card that includes autos from someone like Wambayama with those of Jordan and Lebron. Or maybe Sabrina Ionescu who I think is the future of Women's hoops with a Kobe Bryant auto on it? Kobe was a big fan of hers and she spoke at his memorial.
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Its also possible that the name and likeness rules for NCAA athletes will generate some Rookie (or pre-Rookie) cards that will entice speculators and bring college sports fans into the game too? How about some 1/1 father and sons autographed cards with Lebron James and his sons ?

If we are really talking about vintage (aren't we supposed to be talking vintage?) I'm thinking a high grade (9 or 10) of a marquee card of an all-time great. Maybe one of the 3 extant PSA 8 T205 Cobbs (none higher) or the 1/1 PSA 10 Goudey Baba Ruth #181. For the 50's I'll go with the 1/1 PSA 10 1952 Willie Mays.
More recently I'll take whatever Star Co. RC card of Michael Jordan gets the highest grade.
I'm not necessarily agreeing that these cards are the best just the one's I think will go through the roof if/when they come to auction.
Personally I'm not that into grading premiums but really rich people like to own the best specimens.

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I think the Jordan Nike Jumpman card that was issued with sneakers has a good chance to take off since it's a pre-rookie card (issued in 1985).
It certainly had huge potential a few years ago when I picked up mine. I am not sure it does now given the run that all of the legit Star cards are going to be on as PSA churns them out of the pipeline. Perhaps, if you could get in cheap and are able to hold for a few years.

One thing to note on these cards is that there are a ton of counterfeits out there. They are detectable, you just have to know what to look for. I would not buy one on the spur of the moment unless it was slabbed or I did my due diligence.
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I think at least on the 101 the centering issue is going to limit the impact of PSA grading. Most Beckett 8s and even 8.5s are just not going to cross higher than 7. And I think there's just a psychological limit how high a modern card in a 7 holder cn go.
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I would think that cards of Britany Griner should jump, now that she is out of the Gulag.
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I would think that cards of Britany Griner should jump, now that she is out of the Gulag.
Yep, just have to Hash out which ones to buy...
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I would think that cards of Britany Griner should jump, now that she is out of the Gulag.
Rittenhouse has only made 500 sets each year. That's of course an extremely limited number of base rookies like Breanna Stewart and Aja Wilson should the sport really take off in the hobby.
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I would think that cards of Britany Griner should jump, now that she is out of the Gulag.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are there enough collectors that care?
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No doubt it will be a Japanese card - if we are talking the increase as a percentage and not a dollar cost.

My pick is the 1967 Kabaya Leaf, Sadaharu Oh or a high graded SSP that is so rare its mythical; 2, 3, 8, 17.

With MLB's continued recruiting of Japanese baseball players such as Ohtani, etc. the market for cards in Japan continues to grow with it. Sports card collecting by no means is limited to the United States. With the majority of Kabaya Leaf cards residing in the United States, collectors across the pond are willing to pay competitively to acquire cards from this set.

If we're talking about cards issued in America only, my pick is the 54 Aaron RC. While there are numerous pre-war collectors alive today, I think the collector base is shrinking every year. Yes, there will always be a high demand but it is shrinking disproportionately from the post war collector base. If you are a die hard pre-war collector, ask yourself whom the audience is you sell too and buy from? It will likely be someone you have dealt with before - an avid collector like yourself. The customer base for the post war seller/collector has a tremendous customer base in comparison. There is a new customer every day - someone you don't know - someone that is completing a set or simply investing - someone that wants a keep sake about someone they saw play a game (McGwire/Clemmons/Maddux/Trout/etc.).

Today it is a GLOBAL market, not limited to borders. The change has been gradual from Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean with players such as Clemente (PR) and Amoros (Cuba), then players like Bobby Avila from Mexico, and then the first Japanese player in MLB Murakami in 1964. Along with these players came a new card collector base. Of course, they collect cards of their home-grown player, but also collect cards of those who played with them. None of these new collector bases have a great interest in collecting pre-war cards, or a limited number. My thoughts, right or wrong, is the collecting base for pre-war cards will diminish substantially in the next 10-15 years, while the collecting base for post war will continue to increase with the largest increase in demand coming from countries outside the United States.

Yes, that small population that spends a million+ on a Wagner or a Ruth is still out there. I'm guessing they actually know each other and enjoy the competition of spending that kind of money out bidding each other. The reality is - that's not reality for us that don't have that kind of disposable income. I wish I did!
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