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Old 12-14-2022, 04:33 PM
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Thome played during the juicer era, so for one his stats really didn't stand out among all the big-heads (he only won 1 HR title, 1 RBI title and 1 OPS title) and secondly, you can't really know 100% that he didn't juice too.

It's unfortunate that he is caught up in that a little bit, but it is what it is. Hopefully in 10-15 years things will be clearer and we will be better able to separate the real hitters from the druggies.
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Thome played during the juicer era, so for one his stats really didn't stand out among all the big-heads (he only won 1 HR title, 1 RBI title and 1 OPS title) and secondly, you can't really know 100% that he didn't juice too.

It's unfortunate that he is caught up in that a little bit, but it is what it is. Hopefully in 10-15 years things will be clearer and we will be better able to separate the real hitters from the druggies.
+1 about Thome's stats getting buried by the Roiders and the unfortunate fact that some might lump him in with the cheaters.

And I would say Berra gets lost in the shuffle with the Yankees superstars--1) Ruth 2) Mantle 3) Gehrig 4) Dimaggio 5) Jeter 6) ARod 7) Mariano Rivera and then maybe Berra

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10th all time first baseman by JAWS. He would have had a lot more press on a high profile team. Some spectacular seasons too, you really can't call him an accumulator.
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As I could imagine Yogi saying:

I wasn't under-rated; people just rated the other guys higher.
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He wasn't underrated, the other guys were overrated.
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Yogi won the MVP three times. He might be under appreciated today but was obviously not overlooked when he was playing.
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Yogi won the MVP three times. He might be under appreciated today but was obviously not overlooked when he was playing.
Part of it may be that he didn't hit a lot of home runs. And unlike other positions where the great players from the 50s on back seem to retain their hobby preeminence (look at any ATG list), a number of catchers seemed to supplant Yogi -- Bench in particular, but also Piazza and maybe Carter and Fisk.
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I wasn't under-rated; people just rated the other guys higher.
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Under-rated pair:

Steve Carlton and Gaylord Perry

Combined, they have:
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  • 640+ wins
  • 15 All-Star selections
  • Very little hobby respect
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