NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-13-2022, 03:15 PM
Casey2296's Avatar
Casey2296 Casey2296 is online now
Is Mudville so bad?
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: West Coast
Posts: 5,459
Default

I don't think I can choose one over a 10 year period, lots of things can happen in the market between now and then. And like others have said its might be a relatively obscure card now that will appreciate the most in that period.

That being said, I sold my 52 Jackie which is one of the most beautiful cards imo, to buy my 14CJ Cobb. Kind of a Sophies Choice but I think the Cobb will exceed Jackie value in years to come.
-
__________________
Phil Lewis


https://www.flickr.com/photos/183872512@N04/
-
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-13-2022, 03:18 PM
Carter08 Carter08 is offline
J@mes Nonk.es
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 2,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey2296 View Post
I don't think I can choose one over a 10 year period, lots of things can happen in the market between now and then. And like others have said its might be a relatively obscure card now that will appreciate the most in that period.

That being said, I sold my 52 Jackie which is one of the most beautiful cards imo, to buy my 14CJ Cobb. Kind of a Sophies Choice but I think the Cobb will exceed Jackie value in years to come.
-
Both cards are awesome but I think you made the right call. Wow on both.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-13-2022, 03:22 PM
Rhotchkiss's Avatar
Rhotchkiss Rhotchkiss is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4,589
Default

M101-4/5 Ruth, especially rare backs. Best ever, relatively rare (especially compared to the 1952 Mantle), and super iconic. I also think the 1907 Cobb Dietsche Fielding has a lot of room to run, as its relatively cheap now, its a real rookie, and its very rare (like 20 graded). I alsio think Gehrig cards are all undervalued
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1916 Standard Biscuit Ruth - Front.jpg (77.7 KB, 2019 views)
File Type: jpg 1916 Standard Biscuit Ruth - Back.jpg (79.7 KB, 2023 views)

Last edited by Rhotchkiss; 12-13-2022 at 03:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-13-2022, 04:10 PM
Exhibitman's Avatar
Exhibitman Exhibitman is offline
Ad@m W@r$h@w
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank
Posts: 13,975
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss View Post
I alsio think Gehrig cards are all undervalued
+1 on that. I cannot believe the drop-off from Ruth to Gehrig.
__________________
Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.

https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/

Or not...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-14-2022, 06:58 AM
oldjudge's Avatar
oldjudge oldjudge is offline
j'a'y mi.ll.e.r
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Bronx
Posts: 5,791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss View Post
M101-4/5 Ruth, especially rare backs. Best ever, relatively rare (especially compared to the 1952 Mantle), and super iconic. I also think the 1907 Cobb Dietsche Fielding has a lot of room to run, as its relatively cheap now, its a real rookie, and its very rare (like 20 graded). I alsio think Gehrig cards are all undervalued
Again, I'm with Ryan 100% (we have to stop meeting like this or people will talk). There are approximately 40 non-Sporting News, non-blank back Ruth rookies. That is spread over 11 different backs. That makes even the most common non-SN ad back Ruth rookie rare, and three (Wares, Holmes to Homes and Green Joyce have only one known copy). This is the rookie card of the greatest player ever.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-25-2022, 03:36 PM
PhillyFan1883's Avatar
PhillyFan1883 PhillyFan1883 is offline
Connor
Connor
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 251
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss View Post
M101-4/5 Ruth, especially rare backs. Best ever, relatively rare (especially compared to the 1952 Mantle), and super iconic. I also think the 1907 Cobb Dietsche Fielding has a lot of room to run, as its relatively cheap now, its a real rookie, and its very rare (like 20 graded). I alsio think Gehrig cards are all undervalued


I agree Ryan, and also the other HOFs in the M101 will continue to move up. 1925 Gehrig Rookie still has room to grow also.

1914 Cracker Grover Alexander RC, and 47 Bond Bread Jackie portrait also come to mind.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-25-2022, 03:38 PM
PhillyFan1883's Avatar
PhillyFan1883 PhillyFan1883 is offline
Connor
Connor
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 251
Default

1951 Bowman MANTLE and Mays are some others that come to mind.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-25-2022, 06:38 PM
Exhibitman's Avatar
Exhibitman Exhibitman is offline
Ad@m W@r$h@w
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank
Posts: 13,975
Default

When someone or something becomes a cultural touchstone, that's the one with the most long-term upside. I think Robinson has gone to that level over the last several years.

What boosts prospects for a card long term isn't what us old goats collect, it is what newbie collectors are going to lust after when they get into vintage, and people moving into vintage seem to get excited over a select few players and/or cards. Ruth and Robinson are the two foremost, and the 1952 Topps Mantle is another. I would argue that Robinson has one of the biggest non-hardcore vintage collector cachets, and that it is growing, which makes him a natural starting point for newer collectors, especially because you can still get decent career-contemporary Robinson cards well under $1,000. Name another player whose uniform was retired across the entirety of MLB and whose uniform # goes on every jersey once a year on a special day and whose name is on a major award and was the subject of a recent major motion picture and who has a plethora of modern cards issued virtually every year. There isn't one. Newbies want #42, just like they want Ruth. Cobb is an "inside" guy; we know him but he does not attract newbie collectors the way Robinson does. The 1952 Topps Mantle is similar. It has cachet far beyond the current hardcore vintage collector base. Even the non-collectors know it. Watch a newbie collector handle one for the first time. They go nuts. That's why I think there is still upside to the card. Owning one is an aspiration for newbies.

OK Cobb enthusiasts, you may unleash your vitriol now.
__________________
Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.

https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/

Or not...

Last edited by Exhibitman; 12-25-2022 at 06:51 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-25-2022, 08:00 PM
padremurph padremurph is offline
member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 19
Default

I’d consider myself a “newbie.” Im in my 30s and 90% of my collection is modern, although I’ve been lurking here more and more and am intrigued by vintage.

The one vintage card I’ve been drawn to is the Green Cobb. I have two copies and they’re the cornerstone of my collection. Something about it is so perfect and timeless. The green pops. It’s an all time player and an all time set.

I think everyone is jumping on the Jackie bandwagon because it logically makes sense that his stuff should do well and appreciate. Although, I wonder how many people actually want to collect Jackie vs buying thinking it’s just a good investment.

Someone that doesn’t get mentioned enough is Ted Williams. I think he gets hurt by not being part of some of the better sets, but I can see his stuff exploding if anyone ever flirts w .400 (maybe now that the shift will be banned).

Lastly, I don’t think you can go wrong w Yankees (Ruth, Mantle, DiMaggio, Gehrig). Vintage and all time Yankees just go together.

Anyways, there’s my $0.02 as someone on the younger side that’s just getting started in vintage.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-25-2022, 08:06 PM
notfast's Avatar
notfast notfast is offline
Ma.tt Whi.te
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: MD
Posts: 585
Default

I’m biased but I think the t205 Cobb and other HOF’ers centered in mid grade are extremely undervalued.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-25-2022, 08:40 PM
brianclat11's Avatar
brianclat11 brianclat11 is offline
Brian Clatfelter
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 128
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by padremurph View Post
I’d consider myself a “newbie.” Im in my 30s and 90% of my collection is modern, although I’ve been lurking here more and more and am intrigued by vintage.

The one vintage card I’ve been drawn to is the Green Cobb. I have two copies and they’re the cornerstone of my collection. Something about it is so perfect and timeless. The green pops. It’s an all time player and an all time set.

I think everyone is jumping on the Jackie bandwagon because it logically makes sense that his stuff should do well and appreciate. Although, I wonder how many people actually want to collect Jackie vs buying thinking it’s just a good investment.

Someone that doesn’t get mentioned enough is Ted Williams. I think he gets hurt by not being part of some of the better sets, but I can see his stuff exploding if anyone ever flirts w .400 (maybe now that the shift will be banned).

Lastly, I don’t think you can go wrong w Yankees (Ruth, Mantle, DiMaggio, Gehrig). Vintage and all time Yankees just go together.

Anyways, there’s my $0.02 as someone on the younger side that’s just getting started in vintage.
Nicely thought out and insightful post. I tend to agree with with your assessment, but do believe that Jackie cards are going to intensify as newer and younger vintage collectors consider the historical aspect. This is the trend.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-25-2022, 08:30 PM
todeen's Avatar
todeen todeen is offline
Tim Odeen
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,317
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exhibitman View Post
When someone or something becomes a cultural touchstone, that's the one with the most long-term upside. I think Robinson has gone to that level over the last several years.

What boosts prospects for a card long term isn't what us old goats collect, it is what newbie collectors are going to lust after when they get into vintage, and people moving into vintage seem to get excited over a select few players and/or cards. Ruth and Robinson are the two foremost, and the 1952 Topps Mantle is another. I would argue that Robinson has one of the biggest non-hardcore vintage collector cachets, and that it is growing, which makes him a natural starting point for newer collectors, especially because you can still get decent career-contemporary Robinson cards well under $1,000. Name another player whose uniform was retired across the entirety of MLB and whose uniform # goes on every jersey once a year on a special day and whose name is on a major award and was the subject of a recent major motion picture and who has a plethora of modern cards issued virtually every year. There isn't one. Newbies want #42, just like they want Ruth. Cobb is an "inside" guy; we know him but he does not attract newbie collectors the way Robinson does. The 1952 Topps Mantle is similar. It has cachet far beyond the current hardcore vintage collector base. Even the non-collectors know it. Watch a newbie collector handle one for the first time. They go nuts. That's why I think there is still upside to the card. Owning one is an aspiration for newbies.

OK Cobb enthusiasts, you may unleash your vitriol now.
I've made this argument about Jackie before; I completely agree. High school kids know his name alongside MLK Jr, Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, and Muhammad Ali.

Sent from my SM-G9900 using Tapatalk
__________________
Barry Larkin, Joey Votto, Tris Speaker, 1930-45 Cincinnati Reds, T206 Cincinnati
Successful deals with: Banksfan14, Brianp-beme, Bumpus Jones, Dacubfan (x5), Dstrawberryfan39, Ed_Hutchinson, Fballguy, fusorcruiser (x2), GoCalBears, Gorditadog, Luke, MikeKam, Moosedog, Nineunder71, Powdered H20, PSU, Ronniehatesjazz, Roarfrom34, Sebie43, Seven, and Wondo
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-25-2022, 09:53 PM
Exhibitman's Avatar
Exhibitman Exhibitman is offline
Ad@m W@r$h@w
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank
Posts: 13,975
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by todeen View Post
I've made this argument about Jackie before; I completely agree. High school kids know his name alongside MLK Jr, Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, and Muhammad Ali.

Sent from my SM-G9900 using Tapatalk
Ali is a heck of a value too. Especially some of his pre-1967 cards.
__________________
Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.

https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/

Or not...
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-08-2023, 06:06 PM
Fall1963 Fall1963 is offline
Kent
member
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Iowa
Posts: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey2296 View Post
I don't think I can choose one over a 10 year period, lots of things can happen in the market between now and then. And like others have said its might be a relatively obscure card now that will appreciate the most in that period.

That being said, I sold my 52 Jackie which is one of the most beautiful cards imo, to buy my 14CJ Cobb. Kind of a Sophies Choice but I think the Cobb will exceed Jackie value in years to come.
-
1914 Cracker Jack Ty Cobb cannot go wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-08-2023, 07:56 PM
ullmandds's Avatar
ullmandds ullmandds is offline
pete ullman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: saint paul, mn
Posts: 11,519
Default

Dietsche fielding cobb
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-08-2023, 08:25 PM
Rhotchkiss's Avatar
Rhotchkiss Rhotchkiss is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4,589
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ullmandds View Post
dietsche fielding cobb
+1000
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-09-2023, 07:40 AM
sportscardpete's Avatar
sportscardpete sportscardpete is offline
Pete
Pet.er ian.nic.elli
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 1,455
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ullmandds View Post
Dietsche fielding cobb
I am biased but this is definitely way up there.

I would also throw in the Felix Mendelsohn Ruth. It has the makings of an all-time card; low pop, early years Ruth, and a stunning image.
__________________
Looking for:

Sporting News/Collins McCarthy Jackson
Low Grade Ruth rookie
Signed Wilt Chamberlain rookie

Cards:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/189414509@N08/albums
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-09-2023, 09:25 AM
packs packs is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 9,182
Default

I guess some people might consider this card a novelty. I consider it a great card:



Last edited by packs; 08-09-2023 at 01:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-09-2023, 09:35 AM
bbcard1 bbcard1 is offline
T0dd M@rcum
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 3,429
Default

I pick up every Glenn Burke I find in a common pile. I still think someone may make a major movie about him. I also had a friend who used to run with him back in the day.

https://youtu.be/l2MoXND64Zw
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-09-2023, 02:01 PM
luciobar1980's Avatar
luciobar1980 luciobar1980 is offline
Lucio Barbarino
Lu.cio Barb.arino
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Troy, NY
Posts: 1,164
Default

Cobb, Ruth, Mantle, Mays

I think Wagner maybe is a little too niche compared to these guys.
__________________
~20 SUCCESSFUL BST (1 trade) on Net54

Last edited by luciobar1980; 08-09-2023 at 02:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-08-2023, 09:06 PM
Casey2296's Avatar
Casey2296 Casey2296 is online now
Is Mudville so bad?
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: West Coast
Posts: 5,459
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fall1963 View Post
1914 Cracker Jack Ty Cobb cannot go wrong.
They don't even come up anymore.
__________________
Phil Lewis


https://www.flickr.com/photos/183872512@N04/
-
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-08-2023, 09:28 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,776
Default

PSA 10 COLLEGE card of Taurasi, talk about a card lower than a cricket card and worthy of the junk bins, just sold on ebay at auction for over 1300. Musta been some chicks bidding it up or wimpy men. No self respecting guy could have bought that, could he?
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.

My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/

Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 08-08-2023 at 09:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-11-2023, 07:06 PM
Madi$on18joshua Madi$on18joshua is offline
Micah L Marshall II
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Oceanside, California
Posts: 254
Default .

I think you made a solid decision! That 14 Cobb isn't going anywhere but UP!
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-12-2023, 06:03 AM
Republicaninmass Republicaninmass is offline
T3d $h3rm@n
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,598
Default

Like housing and stocks, they only go up.
__________________
"Trolling Ebay right now" ©

Always looking for signed 1952 topps as well as variations and errors
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What card price increase (over the last 5 years) shocks you the most? parkplace33 Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 80 06-20-2022 03:50 PM
card with the largest % increase? darwinbulldog Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 62 10-21-2020 01:18 AM
Babe Ruth barn find. single-signed ball. 96 years in my family nondescript Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 25 12-01-2018 03:04 PM
Card collecting 100 years ago xbaggypants Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 3 01-25-2016 05:24 AM
declining years card thread... show a card dennis Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 124 05-14-2009 02:40 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:37 PM.


ebay GSB