6 degrees

[Rad_Hazard]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yep.

That’s wild! His career is bookended exactly by two legendary sets.

[Al C.risafulli]

Keith Olbermann put this together in the 90s. It's one of the most beautiful pieces I know that illustrates the history of baseball. I post it on social media every Opening Day, but I'll post it here:

The ninth man

Baseball is often criticized for having an obsession with its own history. Yet, these days, it seems that history alone separates it from every sport. As the character portrayed by James Earl Jones said in the movie "Field Of Dreams," America has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, erased again, rebuilt again -- and all the time baseball has been there.

For better or worse, history, in baseball, is a living thing. And in this spring training, history walks the camps looking for one player to claim as his own.

He is out there somewhere, in Arizona, maybe in Florida. His may be a name we already know; it may be one we do not. He is probably 20 or 21 years old, maybe 22. And he will make his big-league debut some time this year, or spend his first full season in the bigs this year -- and he will retire in the year 2016 or 2017. He will be the grand old man of baseball. And they will say, he's so old that the year he broke in, Eddie Murray was still playing!

He is out there somewhere, in Arizona, maybe in Florida. And to him is about to be passed -- the torch. He will some day be the senior player in the game, representing an era at its end. And he will be the ninth man.

Murray, beginning his 21st season, is the eighth man. That's because he is so old that, when he broke in, Brooks Robinson was still playing. That was in 1977; they were teammates.

And at that time, Robinson, the grand old man of the game, had been playing so long that when he broke in, Bob Feller was still playing. Feller is the sixth man. Because, when Brooks Robinson broke in, Feller had been playing so long that when he was a rookie in 1936, Rogers Hornsby was still playing.

The fifth man. Hornsby had been playing so long that when he was a rookie in 1915, Honus Wagner was still playing; Wagner was the fourth man. He had been playing so long that when he was a rookie in 1897, Cap Anson was still playing. Cap, of course, was the third man. And when Wagner broke in, Cap Anson had been playing so long that when he was a rookie in 1871, Dickey Pearce was still playing.

The second man. When he was a rookie in 1855, Doc Adams was still playing. And Doc Adams was a member of the Knickerbocker club when on June 19, 1846, it played the first recorded game of baseball as we know it.

He was the first man.

Adams.
Pearce.
Anson.
Wagner.
Hornsby.
Feller.
Robinson.
Murray.
And now, someone new.

He is out there somewhere, in Arizona, maybe in Florida. His may be a name we already know. It may be one we do not. Now, he is only at the beginning. But some day, he will be ... the ninth man.


We are now past the ninth man, on to the tenth man.

The ninth man?

Bartolo Colon, who broke in during Eddie Murray's final season of 1997.

-Al

[rhettyeakley]

Albert Pujols

2002 Chuck Finley
1986 Reggie Jackson
1967 Jack Sanford
1956 Elmer Valo
1941 Bump Hadley
1927 Walter Johnson
1912 Clark Griffith

1897 Cap Anson

That is as close as I can figure (7 People between)

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

So I'm pretty proud of my initial 8 degrees (7 players in between) Looks like it can be tied but not beaten?

[scotgreb]

This might help -- from Keith Olbermann in 1997 . . . [I believe]

The Ninth Man

Baseball is often criticized for having an obsession with its own history. Yet, these days, it seems that history alone separates it from every sport. As the character portrayed by James Earl Jones said in the movie "Field Of Dreams," America has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, erased again,
rebuilt again -- and all the time baseball has been there.

For better or worse, history, in baseball, is a living thing. And in this spring training, history walks the camps looking for one player to claim as his own.

He is out there somewhere, in Arizona, maybe in Florida. His may be a name we already know; it may be one we do not. He is probably 20 or 21 years old, maybe 22. And he will make his big-league debut some time this year, or spend his first full season in the bigs this year -- and he will retire in the year
2016 or 2017. He will be the grand old man of baseball. And they will say, he's so old that the year he broke in, Eddie Murray was still playing!

He is out there somewhere, in Arizona, maybe in Florida. And to him is about to be passed -- the torch. He will some day be the senior player in the game, representing an era at its end. And he will be the ninth man.

Murray, beginning his 21st season, is the eighth man. That's because he is so old that, when he broke in, Brooks Robinson was still playing. That was in 1977; they were teammates.

And at that time, Robinson, the grand old man of the game, had been playing so long that when he broke in, Bob Feller was still playing. Feller is the sixth man. Because, when Brooks Robinson broke in, Feller had been playing so long that when he was a rookie in 1936, Rogers Hornsby was still playing.

The fifth man. Hornsby had been playing so long that when he was a rookie in 1915, Honus Wagner was still playing; Wagner was the fourth man. He had been playing so long that when he was a rookie in 1897, Cap Anson was still playing. Cap, of course, was the third man. And when Wagner broke in, Cap
Anson had been playing so long that when he was a rookie in 1871, Dickey Pearce was still playing.

The second man. When he was a rookie in 1855, Doc Adams was still playing. And Doc Adams was a member of the Knickerbocker club when on June 19, 1846, it played the first recorded game of baseball as we know it.

He was the first man.

Adams.
Pearce.
Anson.
Wagner.
Hornsby.
Feller.
Robinson.
Murray.
And now, someone new.

He is out there somewhere, in Arizona, maybe in Florida. His may be a name we already know. It may be one we do not. Now, he is only at the beginning. But some day, he will be ... the ninth man.

Edited to add: I've seen where David Ortiz might have been the 10th man (September 1997)

[Eric72]

Though quite different, I find the following info fascinating:

Lucile Randon Is currently the oldest living human being, having been born in 1904.

Thomas Jefferson died in 1826.

It would only take one person to link a person alive today to the birth of our nation. I’m sure there were many people who lived the entire 78 year span necessary.

Think about it. There were people who were alive during the same time as Thomas Jefferson - and - during the same time as someone alive today.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

President Tyler's (10th President 1841 - 1845) last Grandson died just last year. Tyler was born 1790 less than two years after the signing of the constitution and died in 1862, early in the civil war.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Though quite different, I find the following info fascinating:

Lucile Randon Is currently the oldest living human being, having been born in 1904.

Thomas Jefferson died in 1826.

It would only take one person to link a person alive today to the birth of our nation. I’m sure there were many people who lived the entire 78 year span necessary.

Think about it. There were people who were alive during the same time as Thomas Jefferson - and - during the same time as someone alive today.

John Adams also lived until 1826 and he was older than Jefferson having been born in 1735. So just one step between someone living in 1735 and someone living today. Insane.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Rad_Hazard

That’s wild! His career is bookended exactly by two legendary sets.

He is the opposite of George Sisler and Harry Heilmann (who couldn't quite get into either set).

[rats60]

Originally Posted by perezfan

He is the opposite of George Sisler and Harry Heilmann (who couldn't quite get into either set).

Alexander too, although he did make it into Cracker Jacks.