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Old 12-09-2022, 06:09 AM
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I would hope the contract would pay for itself by that time in at least one championship and an all time Yankee finishing up his career before his number gets retired.

Jeter made 17 million in 2013 and only played 17 games. But I don't think fans were mad about it.
Agreed but if it is multiple years like Albert Pujols last 4 years of contract(except last year specifically last few months) were bad and people were complaining about that contract.
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I can't think of 1 long term big money contract that has ever proven to be a "good move" for the yankees...ever. That being said...I can't think of any current player I'd rather see as the long term "face" of the yankees than Judge.

I agree that the yankees were damned if they signed him...damned if they let him go...so here we are.

1 championship will make this worthwhile!!!!
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Old 12-09-2022, 09:15 AM
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I can't think of 1 long term big money contract that has ever proven to be a "good move" for the yankees...ever. That being said...I can't think of any current player I'd rather see as the long term "face" of the yankees than Judge.

I agree that the yankees were damned if they signed him...damned if they let him go...so here we are.

1 championship will make this worthwhile!!!!

The only one I can think of is the original mega deal the Yankees signed Arod to. He did win two MVPs as a Yankees and a championship.
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The only one I can think of is the original mega deal the Yankees signed Arod to. He did win two MVPs as a Yankees and a championship.
That was originally a Rangers contract. The contract/extension he signed with the Yankees was a complete bust. In hindsight, if the Yankees just let his Rangers contract run out and let him go, it would have been great for them.

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Yankees gave Mariano record setting amounts of money to stay the Yankees closer. You can argue how much short relievers are worth till the cows come home, but you can't argue that the Yankees didn't get what they expected out of him when they signed him.
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If Judge can squeeze just 2 more seasons out of him similar to this last season, Yankees will have gotten their money's worth out of him, just from a marketing standpoint.

The rest is just legacy money.
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That was originally a Rangers contract. The contract/extension he signed with the Yankees was a complete bust. In hindsight, if the Yankees just let his Rangers contract run out and let him go, it would have been a great for them.
I hardly ever see mention of his other contract signed about the same time as the extension.
Apparently MLB doesn't allow bonuses for career milestones. Or at least didn't. Part of Arods contract was a second contract outside of baseball that gave him a decent sized piece of the pie for merch surrounding certain milestones like 600th and 700th Hr.

I thought that was sort of brilliant.
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I hardly ever see mention of his other contract signed about the same time as the extension.
Apparently MLB doesn't allow bonuses for career milestones. Or at least didn't. Part of Arods contract was a second contract outside of baseball that gave him a decent sized piece of the pie for merch surrounding certain milestones like 600th and 700th Hr.

I thought that was sort of brilliant.
I think the Yankees fought really hard to throw that part of the contract out after the steroid bubble burst for A-Rod. Don't know if they succeeded or not but they did decide to just release him and eat the last 2+ years of the contract, rather then worry about haggling over the 700 HR + Ruth/Aaron/Bonds milestones.

Merchandising at that point wasn't going to be worth squat anyways.

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Agreed but if it is multiple years like Albert Pujols last 4 years of contract(except last year specifically last few months) were bad and people were complaining about that contract.
people will complain no matter what!!!!
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people will complain no matter what!!!!
That is agreed
We know the Yankees with the merchandise, the Judges Chamber and him becoming the Captain will making their money off of him. Hopefully if they use the DH wisely to load management wisely he can still be productive on the later years.
He has a change to really cash in the marketing himself in NY as well as cement his legacy as a life long Yankee.
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