BST "Auction" sub-section... thoughts and observations?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

I stated why I think that is in 23, why it’s just a couple people posting difficult to sell items to try and unload. Which I have no issue with, I have bought from both of them and enjoy cheap junk cards too.

Selling via auction here is not really viable. Thus it’s dominated by the couple people who do it. It’s not their fault there aren’t different sections to group items, they follow the rules and do nothing wrong because they are the only ones who use it.

I can see why some might criticize the other guys listings that are rather hyperbolic and might rub some wrong, but I can’t see a single thing Octavio has done anything even slightly worthy of critique by posting auctions in the auctions section while following its rules. He’s not taking it over by using it. It’s just that nobody else is. It’s not like the auction section was popping off without them.

I appreciate the response even though I believe it to be 100% wrong. This exact problem gets brought up fairly regularly. The last time was just before the last nationals. It is always the same. A few openly complain while many complain behind the scenes.

Maybe someone could set up an unanimous poll so they wouldn't have to worry about Octavio attacking them.

If it really wasn't a problem it wouldn't get brought up once or twice a year.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I appreciate the response even though I believe it to be 100% wrong. This exact problem gets brought up fairly regularly. The last time was just before the last nationals. It is always the same. A few openly complain while many complain behind the scenes.

Maybe someone could set up an unanimous poll so they wouldn't have to worry about Octavio attacking them.

If it really wasn't a problem it wouldn't get brought up once or twice a year.

Ben i take anything you say with a grain of salt your delusional your a troll that buys zero here and posts garbage .your a bully im not afraid of you.

[rjackson44]

[QUOTE=rjackson44;2290915]Bens makes makes a good point

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

Complain behind the scenes lol i mean this guy makes this up as he goes along ..ben id like to see the cards you have for sale love you to post on the bst ,,but you wont right ben

Man, relax. Stop the bullying.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

Man, relax. Stop the bullying.

You know what bill is right love ya ben ive bought cards from him ,,i mean its just cards i was just trying to defend my friend fred golden age 50s hes old just trying to make a few dollars ,,anyway im going to walk my doggies on the beach they dont care about cards lol..love everyone best octavio

[pokerplyr80]

Not sure what this argument is about but I believe I bought an 89 fleer Ripken from Ben once, can't remember if we made that deal or not. But I've definitely seen him post cards for sale.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I appreciate the response even though I believe it to be 100% wrong. This exact problem gets brought up fairly regularly. The last time was just before the last nationals. It is always the same. A few openly complain while many complain behind the scenes.

If it really wasn't a problem it wouldn't get brought up once or twice a year.

Do you think Net54’s BST would be a viable auction place for popular vintage baseball items if not for those two gentleman using the space to sell low end items?

I would note to paragraph 2 that people complaining about something does not make it so. I have heard people whine about a great many things that, unlike this, are not difficult to prove opinions but are provably false. The presence of a complaint does not make it legitimate or illegitimate.

We can test it. I’m sure Octavio would pause his listings for someone to use it, and not the main board, to auction significantly valuable items so we can see if they go for market value or not and test the thesis. I doubt anyone will want to risk it without having pals lined up to ensure a certain outcome, for the other reasons in 23.

[carlsonjok]

If jingram058 is small potatoes, then I am probably somewhere down in the amoeba end of the ecosystem. Having said that, and having read this thread, let me offer a couple of alternatives:

1. Change the rules for the Auction section, so that anything offered there must start at a $0.99 opening bid. I don't sell on eBay, but I have heard that a low opening bid often results in more activity and higher selling prices.
2. If someone wants to run an auction with an opening bid above $0.99 (a quasi-BIN as someone suggested above,) have that done in the relevant BST section.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

if jingram058 is small potatoes, then i am probably somewhere down in the amoeba end of the ecosystem. Having said that, and having read this thread, let me offer a couple of alternatives:

1. change the rules for the auction section, so that anything offered there must start at a $0.99 opening bid. I don't sell on ebay, but i have heard that a low opening bid often results in more activity and higher selling prices.
2. if someone wants to run an auction with an opening bid above $0.99 (a quasi-bin as someone suggested above,) have that done in the relevant bst section.

dont think its bad idea

[DoubleJ]

One idea would be to ask sellers not to bump their own auctions.

I expect that would result in auctions that have more action/interest remaining at the top of the page, being more visible to members, and auctions that start with a relatively high price falling to the bottom of the page.

Josh

[Snapolit1]

The "auction" place of BST has never been my thing. I'm guessing it's fun to occasionally sell items this way, as I see a lot of repeat sellers. To me it just too much work to be making bids on $1 or $2 increments and then be checking back, monitoring the close, etc. But to each his own. Personally I would rather just see it below in a categoy for $10 or $15 dollars or whatever seems like a fair price.

[abothebear]

I look at the auction page all the time. Those saying that it is crowded with random stuff and dominated by a few people aren't looking very hard. There aren't that many active auctions going, and only three active auctions are allowed at any one time by one person, and everyone abides by that. The auction section is fine in that respect. It isn't disorganized or overrun. Subfolders would definitely make things worse.

One change that I believe would make it better for buyers and sellers would be to have a set weekly close time for all auctions (perhaps this was mentioned, I didn't read all the comments), You can add an auction anytime, but the close time would be the set time (perhaps also with a 5 minute after last bid extension policy to mitigate the snipe effect). This way, bidders could easily keep track of the auction end times, and, presumably, there would therefore be more active bidding each week. It would be a weekly event, and the event would attract greater participation. maybe.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by abothebear

I look at the auction page all the time. Those saying that it is crowded with random stuff and dominated by a few people aren't looking very hard. There aren't that many active auctions going, and only three active auctions are allowed at any one time by one person, and everyone abides by that. The auction section is fine in that respect. It isn't disorganized or overrun. Subfolders would definitely make things worse.

One change that I believe would make it better for buyers and sellers would be to have a set weekly close time for all auctions (perhaps this was mentioned, I didn't read all the comments), You can add an auction anytime, but the close time would be the set time (perhaps also with a 5 minute after last bid extension policy to mitigate the snipe effect). This way, bidders could easily keep track of the auction end times, and, presumably, there would therefore be more active bidding each week. It would be a weekly event, and the event would attract greater participation. maybe.

Those are some pretty good thoughts (as well as many others)...
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