BST "Auction" sub-section... thoughts and observations?

[Eric72]

My personal observation:

The auction forum is dominated by two members. Currently, 11 of the top 14 listings (what fits on my screen) belong to one of those two. I seldom, if ever, see material I would bid on...from either of those two members. So, I rarely check out the auctions. Maybe once a month, I'll click over to that section. When I do, I have the "same old thing" reaction.

As for posting an item for sale there, I avoid it. I wouldn't want my listing to get lost in a sea of 1992 Topps, Donruss puzzles, and McDonald's glassware.

Sorry. Just my two cents.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Eric72

My personal observation:

The auction forum is dominated by two members. Currently, 11 of the top 14 listings (what fits on my screen) belong to one of those two. I seldom, if ever, see material I would bid on...from either of those two members. So, I rarely check out the auctions. Maybe once a month, I'll click over to that section. When I do, I have the "same old thing" reaction.

As for posting an item for sale there, I avoid it. I wouldn't want my listing to get lost in a sea of 1992 Topps, Donruss puzzles, and McDonald's glassware.

Sorry. Just my two cents.

I'm sending these to you just to cheer you up.
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[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I'm sending these to you just to cheer you up.
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LOL.

I'll throw in an opening bid on those...

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Eric72

LOL.

I'll throw in an opening bid on those...

I actually tried to find this auction, I wouldn't mind adding these glasses.

But I think many would be reluctant to post high dollar items in this auction section fearing most would miss them. Perhaps a separate high end auction page, or an auction section with at least a minimum bid or value of say $250 or $500 would help.

[nolemmings]

I know I seldom check the Live Auction threads because of the clutter and the number of items that are of little or less interest to me.

I have used it as a seller on a few occasions, once many years ago for a card that fetched more than $600. I would consider selling some pre-war commons by the auction method if the current format was changed so that my listing wasn't drowned out by the many other items that likely turn off the collectors I hope to attract.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I know I seldom check the Live Auction threads because of the clutter and the number of items that are of little or less interest to me.

I have used it as a seller on a few occasions, once many years ago for a card that fetched more than $600. I would consider selling some pre-war commons by the auction method if the current format was changed so that my listing wasn't drowned out by the many other items that likely turn off the collectors I hope to attract.

Lots of sellers say they want changes that there offended by the posts,But i have yet to see them post anything ,i mean zero ..just complain like the stuff they have is priceless .ok post and make the bst better ..im all for it ..i see a lot of complaining but no posts ..i buy a lot here and im cash ready ,..happy selling guys

[seablaster]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

ok post and make the bst better ..im all for it ..i see a lot of complaining but no posts

The decline of the Live Auctions section was gradual and any potential improvement would be gradual too. It won't magically become REA overnight.

I suspect that there are quite a few active members of the board who likely don't check it frequently anymore because the material offered there is not of any interest to them. This was mentioned several times in this thread alone. I think we'd all agree, this is primarily a prewar forum.

I think it would be fantastic if there were subsections within Live Auctions itself, prewar, postwar, modern, etc. If all listings were required to start at $1 minimum bid, I think that would elicit more activity as well.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I'm sending these to you just to cheer you up.
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Mayor McCheese has me wanting McDonald's cheeseburgers and fries, big time. Maybe a chocolate shake too.

[Leon]

I appreciate the discussion so far. Nothing is off limits in the way of helping. Maybe we do away with the generic section and put a sticky, under the scammer warnings LOL, for Live Auctions, in each category?
That way they would possibly get more traction and be more relevant. Who wouldn't look at one in the T206 section? But this place will never be anything like an AH or fleabay. It's a community section and only our members can see it (the BST areas)..

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[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by Eric72

My personal observation:

The auction forum is dominated by two members. Currently, 11 of the top 14 listings (what fits on my screen) belong to one of those two. I seldom, if ever, see material I would bid on...from either of those two members. So, I rarely check out the auctions. Maybe once a month, I'll click over to that section. When I do, I have the "same old thing" reaction.

As for posting an item for sale there, I avoid it. I wouldn't want my listing to get lost in a sea of 1992 Topps, Donruss puzzles, and McDonald's glassware.

Sorry. Just my two cents.

Hi erick i find your comment on what my friend golden age 50s sells.Rude fred is in his 80s he does this to make a few dollars ,,maybe he doesnt have great stuff to post doesnt make him a bad person.ive bought stuff from him just to help.posting pics and making fun of him isn't what this forum is all about ,,go bully someone else ..
Id like to see what yoi have for sale im sure its mind boggling octavio

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

Hi erick i find your comment on what my friend golden age 50s sells.Rude fred is in his 80s he does this to make a few dollars ,,maybe he doesnt have great stuff to post doesnt make him a bad person.ive bought stuff from him just to help.posting pics and making fun of him isn't what this forum is all about ,,go bully someone else ..
Id like to see what yoi have for sale im sure its mind boggling octavio

+1 on that. Just look at my successful deals.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

Hi erick i find your comment on what my friend golden age 50s sells.Rude fred is in his 80s he does this to make a few dollars ,,maybe he doesnt have great stuff to post doesnt make him a bad person.ive bought stuff from him just to help.posting pics and making fun of him isn't what this forum is all about ,,go bully someone else ..
Id like to see what yoi have for sale im sure its mind boggling octavio

There's a difference between bullying and being blunt.

I never wrote that anyone was a bad person. I haven't been threatening or vulgar. I haven't told you or Fred to stop what you're doing. I simply called it as I saw it. You and Fred have taken over the Auction Forum.

By and large, I'm not interested in the items you're offering at the starting bids you've posted. As a consequence, I don't frequent that segment of Net54.

No offense intended. No reason to get bent out of shape.

[G1911]

Nobody has taken over the auctions. It’s just that nobody else really auctions anything here, so the 2 people who do are most of the posts.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Nobody has taken over the auctions. It’s just that nobody else really auctions anything here, so the 2 people who do are most of the posts.

Why do you think that is? This exact problem has been brought up many many times over the years.

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Why do you think that is? This exact problem has been brought up many many times over the years.

+1

[G1911]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Why do you think that is? This exact problem has been brought up many many times over the years.

I stated why I think that is in 23, why it’s just a couple people posting difficult to sell items to try and unload. Which I have no issue with, I have bought from both of them and enjoy cheap junk cards too.

Selling via auction here is not really viable. Thus it’s dominated by the couple people who do it. It’s not their fault there aren’t different sections to group items, they follow the rules and do nothing wrong because they are the only ones who use it.

I can see why some might criticize the other guys listings that are rather hyperbolic and might rub some wrong, but I can’t see a single thing Octavio has done anything even slightly worthy of critique by posting auctions in the auctions section while following its rules. He’s not taking it over by using it. It’s just that nobody else is. It’s not like the auction section was popping off without them.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

I stated why I think that is in 23, why it’s just a couple people posting difficult to sell items to try and unload. Which I have no issue with, I have bought from both of them and enjoy cheap junk cards too.

Selling via auction here is not really viable. Thus it’s dominated by the couple people who do it. It’s not their fault there aren’t different sections to group items, they follow the rules and do nothing wrong because they are the only ones who use it.

I can see why some might criticize the other guys listings that are rather hyperbolic and might rub some wrong, but I can’t see a single thing Octavio has done anything even slightly worthy of critique by posting auctions in the auctions section while following its rules. He’s not taking it over by using it. It’s just that nobody else is. It’s not like the auction section was popping off without them.

I appreciate the response even though I believe it to be 100% wrong. This exact problem gets brought up fairly regularly. The last time was just before the last nationals. It is always the same. A few openly complain while many complain behind the scenes.

Maybe someone could set up an unanimous poll so they wouldn't have to worry about Octavio attacking them.

If it really wasn't a problem it wouldn't get brought up once or twice a year.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by G1911

Nobody has taken over the auctions. It’s just that nobody else really auctions anything here, so the 2 people who do are most of the posts.

Best answer given on this thread

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Eric72

My personal observation:

The auction forum is dominated by two members. Currently, 11 of the top 14 listings (what fits on my screen) belong to one of those two. I seldom, if ever, see material I would bid on...from either of those two members. So, I rarely check out the auctions. Maybe once a month, I'll click over to that section. When I do, I have the "same old thing" reaction.

As for posting an item for sale there, I avoid it. I wouldn't want my listing to get lost in a sea of 1992 Topps, Donruss puzzles, and McDonald's glassware.

Sorry. Just my two cents.

If we could just give those 2 wonderful gentlemen their own auction section it would be the best solution in my honest opinion.

[rjackson44]

[QUOTE=bnorth;2290837]If we could just give those 2 wonderful gentlemen their own auction section it would be the best solution in my honest ebns a good guy

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

This is coming from a guy who all he posts are billy ripken error cards lol

They get bids and sell.

[rjackson44]

So do mine get glasses get your facts in order

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

So do mine get glasses get your facts in order

I have to say, when I was building my E98 master set Octavio put one up on the auction thread that was relatively rare and I didn't have, thanks for that.

[rjackson44]

Hi casey im a nobody in this hobby ,,ive made a lot of good pals here and i post decent stuff .I have great stuff and normal stuff ,,i don't like trolls and bullies especially bullying a guy in his 80s who doesn't bother no one here ,,just tring to make a few dollars for the holidays.Hes got health issues and yes he sells odd stuff so what .Hes my friend and i like fred!!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

So do mine get glasses get your facts in order

Octavio I am seriously not trying to put you or Fred down in the least. I honestly think if you 2 had your own section just for you 2 great gentlemen to list your stuff it would open up the auction section to others. My biggest complaint is that they are NOT auctions. They are BIN listings with starting prices higher than eBay BIN listings most of the time.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Octavio I am seriously not trying to put you or Fred down in the least. I honestly think if you 2 had your own section just for you 2 great gentlemen to list your stuff it would open up the auction section to others. My biggest complaint is that they are NOT auctions. They are BIN listings with starting prices higher than eBay BIN listings most of the time.

Hi no one is telling you to buy or bid in anything ben no one ,,Do you actually think leon who i respect is going to give me and fred our own section,,cmon ben think before you talk omg lol