Hall of Fame Ballot Announced

[Mike D.]

McGriff was definitely the most likely to get elected this cycle, but it's a bit surprising that Mattingly was #2, one vote ahead of Schilling.

[G1911]

What a joke.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

What a joke.

Ya think?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ya think?

Ortiz, who failed a test and admitted it, gets in. Bonds and Clemens and Palmeiro are blocked for the same offense (but with less evidence for 2 of them) by both avenues. They apparently got between 0 and 3 votes here. This is so obviously stupid. The Hall manages to sink lower even after voting in Baines. This is no surprise at all, but it should have been an easy layup.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Ortiz, who failed a test and admitted it, gets in. Bonds and Clemens and Palmeiro are blocked for the same offense (but with less evidence for 2 of them) by both avenues. They apparently got between 0 and 3 votes here. This is so obviously stupid. The Hall manages to sink lower even after voting in Baines. This is no surprise at all, but it should have been an easy layup.

Weren't Bonds and Clemens near 70 percent with the writers? WTF is with this sanctimonious group? Scared of Frank Thomas? And how do 12 of these clowns not recognize Schilling? The irony, with Schilling being a much better pitcher than Morris.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Weren't Bonds and Clemens near 70 percent with the writers? WTF is with this sanctimonious group? Scared of Frank Thomas?

It’s a closed door vote among an old boys club. I would never expect a good, honest, fair or reasoned outcome. It’s as if it was designed to be corrupt. Schilling will clearly be kept out for being too disagreeable to the party, and roiders evaluated based on who likes them and not what they did. Neither is a surprise, but it is blatantly absurd and corrupt.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Weren't Bonds and Clemens near 70 percent with the writers? WTF is with this sanctimonious group? Scared of Frank Thomas? And how do 12 of these clowns not recognize Schilling? The irony, with Schilling being a much better pitcher than Morris.

On their last ballot, Bonds was at 66.0% and Clemens was at 65.2%. It seems to show what former players think of steroid users and their interest in putting them in the Hall of Fame, and it's a lot lower than the writers as of now. At least Bud Selig wasn't one of the voters. I guess that would be too much hypocrisy even for baseball.

[ejharrington]

I'm very disappointed Schilling didn't make it.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by jayshum

On their last ballot, Bonds was at 66.0% and Clemens was at 65.2%. It seems to show what former players think of steroid users and their interest in putting them in the Hall of Fame, and it's a lot lower than the writers as of now. At least Bud Selig wasn't one of the voters. I guess that would be too much hypocrisy even for baseball.

Or Tony LaRussa, who (stupidly) is in the Hall as the #1 'Roid Manager of all-time. Both his A's and Cardinals teams featured more steroid users than any other teams of the era. He knew 100% what was going on. But I guess that's okay if you are the Manager, rather than a player.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ya think?

But he such a lovable guy and the northeast media loves him!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

But he such a lovable guy and the northeast media loves him!

Indeed. And don't even get me started on why we're fine with a generation of amphetamine users. Oh right, they don't enhance performance, forgot.

[jingram058]

The Baseball Hall Of Mediocrity. No relevance, no credibility. Again, who gives a good hoot...