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Old 12-03-2022, 08:07 AM
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Pat, I have accumulated many newspaper clips on Lone Jack but not that one. Can you share source and date? I have put a timeline together that shows Isaac Freidenwald from Baltimore, MD produced boxes (1887) followed by Munson & Co. in New Haven, CT (1888) and thus very interested in your source.


Jon, I greatly appreciate your attempt to locate a copy we know is out there, my comment was aimed at others on Net54 who may have or know where that or another example resides.
Sure Joe, Shepherdstown Register (Shepherdstown, West Virginia) December 2 1887.
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Old 12-03-2022, 09:50 AM
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Wow!, very cool, so there is likely a variant we have yet to lay our eyes on (assuming the contract was executed). The cigarette box manufacturer for John Carroll appears to be as follows:

1887-1890+
1) Isaac Friedenwald (Baltimore, MD) 1887, excluding perhaps the last couple weeks of December
- Boxes known in hobby (only one variant)
2) George B. White (Winchester, VA) from Dec. 1887 to early/mid 1888
- Box not studied, certainly would have unique slide, likely also unique shell
3) Munson & Co. (New Haven, CT) early/mid 1888+
- Two distinct variants

The new George B. White box production run is likley measured in months, pretty rare, even if they were making 5,000 boxes per week as stated. Also possible that the manufacturers overlapped, both under contract at same time.

Thank you Pat for a share that us pack collectors find interesting.

Jon, Ruby was introduced about the same time George B. White produced boxes (Nov 1887 vs Dec. 1887) . . . I think I recall your Ruby being from Munson but might be worth a second check. Would be neat to locate a George B. White box. It is unusual for a cigarette manufacturer to jump cigarette box suppliers so frequently. I'm also surprised John Carroll never linked up with the Whiting box company.
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Not to derail the thread however, I live in Durham NC and in the Tobacco building they have these displays
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This would fall into the "etc" of this thread's topic. I was looking for a box to keep my mid-teens basball cards in, and ran across this sales display box for holding Boston Garters. (there was an obscure card set, evidently baseball cards were packed with the garters)



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Old 12-03-2022, 11:12 AM
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Not to derail the thread however, I live in Durham NC and in the Tobacco building they have these displays
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The first cabinet of cigarette packs/labels seems to be newer (20th century) but the 2nd display has some early smoking tobacco labels. Do you by chance have a close up of the "Canvas Backs" label? Is there more on display than these two cabinets? Thanks for the share!
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The first cabinet of cigarette packs/labels seems to be newer (20th century) but the 2nd display has some early smoking tobacco labels. Do you by chance have a close up of the "Canvas Backs" label? Is there more on display than these two cabinets? Thanks for the share!
If I ever go back to the building, I will see, this is all I have for now
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Wow!, very cool, so there is likely a variant we have yet to lay our eyes on (assuming the contract was executed). The cigarette box manufacturer for John Carroll appears to be as follows:

1887-1890+
1) Isaac Friedenwald (Baltimore, MD) 1887, excluding perhaps the last couple weeks of December
- Boxes known in hobby (only one variant)
2) George B. White (Winchester, VA) from Dec. 1887 to early/mid 1888
- Box not studied, certainly would have unique slide, likely also unique shell
3) Munson & Co. (New Haven, CT) early/mid 1888+
- Two distinct variants

The new George B. White box production run is likley measured in months, pretty rare, even if they were making 5,000 boxes per week as stated. Also possible that the manufacturers overlapped, both under contract at same time.

Thank you Pat for a share that us pack collectors find interesting.

Jon, Ruby was introduced about the same time George B. White produced boxes (Nov 1887 vs Dec. 1887) . . . I think I recall your Ruby being from Munson but might be worth a second check. Would be neat to locate a George B. White box. It is unusual for a cigarette manufacturer to jump cigarette box suppliers so frequently. I'm also surprised John Carroll never linked up with the Whiting box company.
For everyone’s benefit, here they are.
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Jon, do you know what year Obak cigarettes originated? I know the T212-1's have a 1909 date but I can't find anything on Obak cigarettes prior to late February 1910.
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Great Stuff! I can't get enough on the early packs.

Jon's images reminded my of Dheeraj's wonderful collection. Not sure if he has posted on this site, but here's a link to his U.S. pack collection for anyone interested. Plenty of early packs associated with baseball cards.

https://www.dkcigstore.com/collectio...States&page=23

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Jon, do you know what year Obak cigarettes originated? I know the T212-1's have a 1909 date but I can't find anything on Obak cigarettes prior to late February 1910.
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