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Old 12-02-2022, 10:10 PM
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I think “MK” qualifiers are needed by all grading companies. I’ve bought a few cards graded by SGC in the past, where you cannot see the pen mark on the front or back of the card, because the ink or pencil lead has faded away. The indentation of the writing is there, but, you can’t see it in the scan. When I got the cards in the mail and saw the writing evidence, I was not happy.
I bought a PSA/DNA Rogers Hornsby cut signature with the worst description that left out the fact that other signatures had been erased. I thought it was going to be a centerpiece of my collection. It showed up and and those ghost signatures bothered me immediately. I thought I'd get over it. A year later I sold it. The MK qualifier should be mandatory.

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Old 12-02-2022, 10:17 PM
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I bought a PSA/DNA Rogers Hornsby cut signature with the worst description that left out the fact that other signatures had been erased. I thought it was going to be a centerpiece of my collection. It showed up and and those ghost signatures bothered me immediately. I thought I'd get over it. A year later I sold it. The MK qualifier should be mandatory.

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At that point, shouldn't it just be considered altered though?
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Old 12-02-2022, 10:30 PM
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One of the challenges from the TPG perspective is that the way cards have transacted over time has shifted dramatically. In the early days of PSA, most cards were still transacted in person at shows. There were major auction houses for high end stuff, but as a percentage of volume is concerned, the majority transacted in person. But now we live in a world where most transactions occur online where people upload 2D scans at best, and crappy photos at odd angles at worst. Flaws are easily hidden, and TPGs do the hobby a disservice by not calling out those flaws either on the flip or on the website when looking up the cert. I'd like to see PSA put things like creases, wrinkles, pen markings, and pinholes on their website when you look up a card's cert. It would require very little additional effort on their part to include this information. Especially with cards that are submitted at the Express level or higher. It's ridiculous that you can have a 52 Mantle in an Authentic holder and not even know what's "wrong" with it.
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This is how it always should have been and that Coleman wouldn’t have been an 8 oc in 2021. That looks like a 6 for at least the last 15-20 years. And I used to have plenty of mid grade 60s high numbers in that period.
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This is how it always should have been and that Coleman wouldn’t have been an 8 oc in 2021. That looks like a 6 for at least the last 15-20 years. And I used to have plenty of mid grade 60s high numbers in that period.
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