T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Bridwell

Here are most of the ones from my collection. Hard to find in higher condition.

It is true, as they quite often can look like this (though I am partial to the stamp's appearance despite its flaws, and the fact that this artwork for Killifer is not found in the T205 and T202 sets).

Brian

[BobC]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

It is true, as they quite often can look like this (though I am partial to the stamp's appearance despite its flaws, and the fact that this artwork for Killifer is not found in the T205 and T202 sets).

Brian

Interesting point and observation Brian. Though there are obvious similarities, the images shared across the T205 gold border cards, T202 triple folder card end panels, S74-1 and S74-2 white and colored version silks, respectively, and these T330-2 Piedmont art stamps, are not all exactly identical images. Along with the checklists themselves, there were many differences, changes, and variations made to these player images across this extremely diverse and eclectic group of issues they ended up appearing on. I can't think of any other baseball card images used across such a unique group of items/issues, can anyone else? And am I forgetting any other then contemporary sets/issues that these same or similar images appeared on? Keep thinking I'm forgetting something.

Anyway, my point/question is, has anyone ever tried to sit down and document all the differences and variations in the images used across all these different sets? Would be interesting to see how that would turn out.

Also then, from a collecting standpoint we have people who collect back runs of certain players, like with T206 advertising backs or E/F-card player runs across multiple issues, along with things like front runs of all the different colors appearing on the front of a particular player's E98 cards. But I've never seen or heard of anyone who ever did, or even tried, to put together a player run of these same/similar Piedmont art stamp images across all these vastly different sets. And just imagine if someone did try, and even took it a step further, say working on a player's master image run to include all the different advertising backs that could be found on their S74-1 white silks and/or all the different colors their S74-2 colored silks were made with. Could be quite a neat little niche collecting goal for someone.

[Exhibitman]

I cannot imagine trying to get a run of a specific subject across all of that, Bob. I am guessing the quest would outlive me. As for T330-2, I can only offer this:

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

It is true, as they quite often can look like this (though I am partial to the stamp's appearance despite its flaws, and the fact that this artwork for Killifer is not found in the T205 and T202 sets).

Brian

True Brian, but as you may know the artwork seems to be the same used for Killifer in his Cracker Jack cards from about the same time, or is at least highly similar:
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...Auction-120115

Still, according to Lipset, Killefer is the only subject whose pose is different from T205 or T202, so you've got yourself a good one there!

P.S. Curiously, Killifer does not appear at all in the P2 pins, Px7 Domino disks or S74 silks that all used the T202/t205 pose.

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

I have been able to accumulate 48 over the years. I liked the days when you could buy the damaged ones for $10. The Tinker is the nicest one I have ever seen, not sure how you get a better grade. I have seen a few 5s but are not even close to this one. usually some wear on the edges. Love the set!

[Leon]

Nice run, Lee. That Tinker is off the charts....These are so tough in anything above a 2. Mine are ungraded but this might make a 2.

Originally Posted by Sterling Sports Auctions

I have been able to accumulate 48 over the years. I liked the days when you could buy the damaged ones for $10. The Tinker is the nicest one I have ever seen, not sure how you get a better grade. I have seen a few 5s but are not even close to this one. usually some wear on the edges. Love the set!

[sb1]

The only ones I have left, one HOFer of each factory and one with the original packaging coupon stuck to the gummed back. Could be removed but why?? It's the only coupon I have seen for these, but there are likely others.

[benge610]

Originally Posted by sb1

The only ones I have left, one HOFer of each factory and one with the original packaging coupon stuck to the gummed back. Could be removed but why?? It's the only coupon I have seen for these, but there are likely others.

That Coupon is awesome Scott.
Thank you for sharing.

Ben

"I love baseball history backstory; especially when it involves cards."

[BobC]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

True Brian, but as you may know the artwork seems to be the same used for Killifer in his Cracker Jack cards from about the same time, or is at least highly similar:
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...Auction-120115

Still, according to Lipset, Killefer is the only subject whose pose is different from T205 or T202, so you've got yourself a good one there!

P.S. Curiously, Killifer does not appear at all in the P2 pins, Px7 Domino disks or S74 silks that all used the T202/t205 pose.

Ugh, always forget about the P2 pins and PX7 Domino discs. Since they only used the head shots on the pins/discs and don't show any of the somewhat elaborate borders that were on many of the cards, I forget the images are all from same source. Thanks for the reminder.

Didn't know that about Killefer either, interesting. Now I definitely want to take a better look and see about any other differences that may exist across the images in these sets. And also going to see about getting a player image run across all these sets as well. That might be fun to put together.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

True Brian, but as you may know the artwork seems to be the same used for Killifer in his Cracker Jack cards from about the same time, or is at least highly similar:
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...Auction-120115

Still, according to Lipset, Killefer is the only subject whose pose is different from T205 or T202, so you've got yourself a good one there!

P.S. Curiously, Killifer does not appear at all in the P2 pins, Px7 Domino disks or S74 silks that all used the T202/t205 pose.

Ugh, always forget about the P2 pins and PX7 Domino discs. Since they only used the head shots on the pins/discs and don't show any of the somewhat elaborate borders that were on many of the cards, I forget the images are all from same source. Thanks for the reminder.

Didn't know that about Killefer either, interesting. Now I definitely want to take a better look and see about any other differences that may exist across the images in these sets. And also going to see about getting a player image run across all these sets as well. That might be fun to put together.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by BobC

Ugh, always forget about the P2 pins and PX7 Domino discs. Since they only used the head shots on the pins/discs and don't show any of the somewhat elaborate borders that were on many of the cards, I forget the images are all from same source. Thanks for the reminder.

Didn't know that about Killefer either, interesting. Now I definitely want to take a better look and see about any other differences that may exist across the images in these sets. And also going to see about getting a player image run across all these sets as well. That might be fun to put together.

Have fun with that Bob. And Todd, thanks for showing that Cracker Jacks card of Killifer. It certainly looks like they used the same photo as a base for Killifer's artwork in each set.

Brian

[nolemmings]

Upon reflection, it makes sense that Killefer is not in the disks, pins and silks sets, since he is not in the T202 or T205 sets either. Seems he hadn't made his mark until becoming a regular in 1913.