And the 2022 Hobby Jackass of the year is…

[Fred]

I've always wondered whether OJs that have a large curl to them would be damaged if placed in a slab. Now I know. I guess it doesn't surprise me too much. The only thing I can think of is that the card crossed over to the 4.5 grade (before it was encapsulated). During the encapsulation the card cracked.

The only logical explanation is that the TPG personnel didn't notice the issue and shipped it back. I thought the TPGs took pictures when they grade the cards now. If so, have them review the picture and then as them if they would have actually given a 4.5 grade to a card that was creased like that. They would have to conclude that it occurred after the encapsulation.

TPGs should have enough experience to determine if a curled card like that could be damaged, after all, doesn't PSA see more cards than any other TPG? Shouldn't the have some expertise in the field, by now?

It'd be interesting to see how this plays out with PSA.

[Casey2296]

Re: the curled card
Don't TPGs require you send them cards in a penny sleeve and card saver? which would already have flattened the card. It's unfortunate to see such a nice card get damaged, I'm glad sgc made you whole.

[inceptus]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Re: the curled card
Don't TPGs require you send them cards in a penny sleeve and card saver? which would already have flattened the card. It's unfortunate to see such a nice card get damaged, I'm glad sgc made you whole.

That’s an interesting point. It came to me in a penny sleeve/top loader when I purchased it, and I transferred it to a new sleeve/top loader and sent to SGC the next day. I’m assuming it had been stored in a non-flat manner for years, so between my shipping to SGC and the slabbing, it was too much sudden trauma for this particular card.


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[G1911]

Originally Posted by inceptus

That’s an interesting point. It came to me in a penny sleeve/top loader when I purchased it, and I transferred it to a new sleeve/top loader and sent to SGC the next day. I’m assuming it had been stored in a non-flat manner for years, so between my shipping to SGC and the slabbing, it was too much sudden trauma for this particular card.


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I have had this happen too. I had a number of curled actress cards on the same stock as an N172 in top loaders, and they never had a problem. There was enough space and play in a top loader to not crack it. I traded the duplicates to a pal who sent one in for grading, and it was ruined like this in the process.

I now store curled N cards without any individual pockets, in team bags with tons of room and make no effort to flatten my actresses.

[G1911]

I would nominate Gary Vee as the hobby jackass.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by G1911

I would nominate Gary Vee as the hobby jackass.

Among others

Did that guy pull the 55 bowman mantle this year or last? Time flies but that stuck with me

[Exhibitman]

I nominate the collector who takes pleasure in the misfortunes of other collectors. You know, the guy who can barely restrain his glee when a TPG messes up someone's card, or who cheerleads any price decline or hobby crisis, but is strangely silent when someone has a stroke of good fortune. Thanks for always peeing in our collective Cheerios.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Among others

Did that guy pull the 55 bowman mantle this year or last? Time flies but that stuck with me

Two different guys. Leighton Sheldon from Vintage Breaks was the one that opened the pack with the 1955 Bowman Mantle that graded a PSA 9 at the National.
Gary Vaynerchuk is much worse than Leighton.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Re: the curled card
Don't TPGs require you send them cards in a penny sleeve and card saver? which would already have flattened the card. It's unfortunate to see such a nice card get damaged, I'm glad sgc made you whole.

If I were going to have something crossed over, I'd request that the card remain encapsulated until the TPG could determine if the card would cross over at a minimum grade and do not remove it unless the card will meet that minimum grade. Wouldn't it suck to have an SGC "8" and then have PSA drop it down to a "6".

Edited to add - that's just a crying shame about that Adonis OJ.

[Yoda]

I nominate Ebay for their boneheaded authentication scheme.

[Casey2296]

I'm going with Slapnicker on sheer entertainment value.

[babraham]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I'm going with Slapnicker on sheer entertainment value.

Ha, agreed!

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I'm going with Slapnicker on sheer entertainment value.

LOL I’m with you Phil