1967 Topps 6th Series

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Outstanding detective work!

I'm keeping score at home, and from following this thread, I show the following 6th series cards as yet to have either a right or left side mate identified, in other words in terms of their row placements, they're complete islands to themselves. If any have been placed, even on one side, please advise:

Barton, Shaw, Adair, Twins Rookies, Clemons, Indians Rookies, Griffith, Helms, Burgess, Lopez, Stephenson, Tigers Rookies, Alou

Also, the longest section of a single row, without knowing the whole row, stands at: Coombs/Rigney/Wert/McCovey - yes?

Clemens is next to Perez, the second card in the Perez row. The Bell row has Bell-Burgess-Coombs-Rigney-Wert-McCovey-?-?-?-?-Ribant. These aren't confirmed, but Kevvyg1026 and I currently have Lachemann and the Giants Team card in the 4 and 5 slots of the Bob Miller row, the Dodgers Team card, McFarlane, Indians Rookie Stars in the 8, 9, and 10 slots of the Gary Bell row, Shaw, McCarver, and the Braves Team card in the 4, 5, 6 slots of the Brooks Robinson Checklist row, Ortega in the 10 slot of the Brooks Robinson Checklist row, Twins Rookie Stars and Cloninger in the 4 and 5 slots of the Tony Perez row, Durocher and Arrigo in the 4 and 5 slots of the Pirates Rookie Stars row. Unfortunately we have nothing on Barton, Adair, Griffith, Helms, Stephenson, or the Pirates Team card yet but we have no doubt they are 3x cards. We have combos of Zimmerman-Dierker, Killebrew-Tolan, King-Campaneris-Gabrielson with Lopez above Gabrielson, Houk-Werhas that are somewhere in the 3x rows. Felipe Alou and Tigers Rookie Stars are the mystery cards, they both have quantities that would qualify both as 4x but there is only space for one more 4x if we have everything correct. I would love to know who is to the right of Willie McCovey but nothing has shown up yet. We currently have the four cards missing in the Gary Bell row as slot 7 unknown (possibly Alou, Tigers Rookie Stars, or Indians Rookie Stars, slot 8 Dodgers Team card, slot 9 McFarlane, slot 10 either Indians Rookie Stars or Tigers Rookie Stars (it has to be a Rookie Stars card because the card above it, Jose Santiago. has a Rookie Stars card under it).

[Cliff Bowman]

These are a few more 67 6th Series miscut back scans that I got from member Elberson, nothing new but it confirms Clemens is to the right of Perez, Wert is to the right of Rigney, and the Marichal Checklist is on the right edge of the sheet.

[Cliff Bowman]

I found the position of one of the two mystery cards that I figured might be the final unknown 4x card, #526 Tigers Rookie Stars is actually the last card on the 3x Bob Miller row. That means the other mystery card, #530 Felipe Alou, is probably the final 4x card on the Gary Bell row in the 7 slot between Willie McCovey and the Dodgers Team card. I am going by the quantities that #530 Felipe Alou is available on eBay and other sites but it can't be confirmed until some proof shows up.

[Cliff Bowman]

I never explained how Smoky Burgess is the second card in the 4x Gary Bell row or how Rene Lachemann and the Giants Team card are possibly in the four and five slots of the 3x Bob Miller row. Some Burgess cards can be found with a partial line at the bottom, that line starts on the bottom of some Gary Bell cards. On the part of the sheet where the Gary Bell row is above the Tony Perez row there is always a print line between the two rows that runs under Bell and Burgess and above Tony Perez and Doug Clemens. On the Lachemann and the Giants Team card, there is a COMC scan of a miscut Giants Team in the Sold section that unfortunately cannot be blown up but it appears that it is above Fred Talbot, which then places the Giants Team card in the five slot of the Miller row and then Lachemann in the four slot of the Miller row because Lachemann is to the left of the Giants Team card.

[Kevvyg1026]

We also know that the Birds Belters and Felix Mantilla rows are at the top of the two slits.

From a pattern standpoint, we know that the Perez row is below two different rows, one headed by the Brooks checklist and the other headed by Bob Miller, and that the Perez row creates a wrong back with that of the Birds Belters (because of Palmer at the end of the Birds row). This means that the Palmer row and the Perez row are diametrically opposed on the two slits, at least one location on the two slits.

[Cliff Bowman]

Kevvyg1026 found this one, Orlando Martinez is above Jerry Zimmerman which means Zimmerman is in the 7 slot of the Bob Miller row and Larry Dierker is in the 8 slot of the Bob Miller row. That means there is only missing card in the Bob Miller row if everything is correct, the 6 slot, which has to be one of these cards, Adair, Barton, Griffith, Helms, Pirates Team card, or Stephenson.

[bb66]

Great info!