1968 Topps Milton Bradley help

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by G1911

You're welcome to use any redefinition making the MB's separate from all other cards you'd like. I will continue to use the long-established one that does not treat the MB's differently from every single other set of cards, and stand by original claim in post 20.

Originally Posted by G1911

I have most of the 132 card set, but I’m missing a majority of the hot rods still. While all cards were printed in equal number (except the Marichal checklist), few bother to list the cars online. They have proven difficult for me to find, while the baseball and football are pretty common to find. The MB versions of the footballs are a significant chunk of those cards total populations, the AFL print runs were so much lower than MLB.

Well, at least we agree that it is a 132 card set.

[Exhibitman]

I think it is a stand-alone 132 card set. It was printed separately from all other Topps cards that year. It was distributed separately from all of the sets from which it was drawn. It was never in packs. It was never sold at retail by Topps. It contains cards derived from three other Topps sets. It contains cards across multiple years of issue. It is most akin to the various Topps sets made for Burger King from 1978-1980. Just not part of the regular issue.

A variation would be a card printed and sold in the same manner as the others that the manufacturer just happened to change during the print run, like the 1973 Kaline with the boo-boo, the 1972 Cubs cards with the different colors under some of the letters, or the 1974 Washington NL Padres.

A print flaw is not a defect, it is a card with a mistake on it, like the 'blob' cards in 1971 Topps.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

A print flaw is not a defect, it is a card with a mistake on it, like the 'blob' cards in 1971 Topps.

I have a hard time seeing how a print flaw is not a defect. To be a 'flaw' or a 'mistake' would, definitionally, make it a defect.

[etsmith]

Are the white lines only at the top and bottom on vertical cards? Here's a Rod Carew with a white line at the side.

Rod Carew.jpg

[brob28]

Edward, it depends on each cards print sheet placement. The Carew MB card can have a white border on the right side or bottom of the card. The Topps regular issue can have a white border on the right side only. So the card you show can be either issue, to be sure my next step would be to compare the shade of yellow on the back of the card.

[G1911]

That’s the right edge of the sheet; not the border of a hot rod or a football player card. A row only has 1 type on it; all 11 in a row were baseball, football, or cars, not a mixture of them.

[brob28]

This should help Edward. The first image is a partial series 1 sheet of the regular issue, the second image is a re-created MB full sheet.

[horzverti]

Originally Posted by etsmith

Are the white lines only at the top and bottom on vertical cards? Here's a Rod Carew with a white line at the side.

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The Carew card in post #40 is a regular Topps card. See that near 90 degree angle where Carew’s top and bottom uniform meet? In that area, in the background where the grass meets the dirt…see the stray red ink spot? That spot is present only on the Topps version. The MB version won’t have that spot or the spot will be super faint. Also, some MB Carew’s do indeed have a white line at the right. It is just a sheet gutter line.

Nearly all MB star cards have a similar “tell” on the front…Aaron, Gibson, Brooks, Namath, Seaver, Mathews, one of the Marichal checklists….and I already let the cat out of the bag on the Ryan. Once you see them, you can’t miss them.

[toppcat]

One thing I've always wondered is whether the salmon backed "Fun Pack" sheet from this era with Who Am I (no coating and some subjects pulled), Hot Rods and Target: Moon cards was prepared for the Win-A-Card Game. maybe as a second series if all went well.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Well, at least we agree that it is a 132 card set.

Ha, like I said, I have both because I collect both master sets.