What the Hell SGC I am out

raulus · #1 11-18-2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BobC

LOL

So, does that "Yep" mean that you would advise a TPG client to maybe sit down and talk some more about them grading a potentially offensive card then?

You are so correct though that things are definitely not the same, even from such a short time ago. And that is exactly why what is possibly crazy and farfetched today is a TPG/business NOT at least looking at and thinking through the potential issues and impact of becoming involved with grading potentially offensive material/items. Doesn't mean they won't still end up doing it though.

Trying not to get drawn into a serious discussion here, especially in a public forum, about topics that could get me cancelled myself, if my views are considered to be sufficiently outside of the current orthodoxy.

But if we ignore all that, for any business that changes their policies around delivery of their services, it seems like they should be willing to publish that change in policy to their customers and potential customers, to avoid having those customers feeling abused when stuff like this happens.

I mean, when my local Taco Bell runs out of Nacho Fries and/or Mexican Pizzas, they at least have the good sense to post a sign so that I am alerted to it, and can instead direct my business to another fine dining establishment. A similar courtesy from our local friendly TPG would be a good way to go, if it is indeed the situation that their policies have changed.

G1911 · #2 11-18-2022, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

But if we ignore all that, for any business that changes their policies around delivery of their services, it seems like they should be willing to publish that change in policy to their customers and potential customers, to avoid having those customers feeling abused when stuff like this happens.

This. If it was virtue signaling the correct thoughts and PC wokeness that is amenable right now, it would be published. The whole point of the virtue show is to signal it and appear morally right. To do it in secret accomplishes nothing, no company actually practices woke culture and shuts up about it.

I don't know why they would decline a T203, but this seems far fetched.

JamesGallo · #3 11-19-2022, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911

This. If it was virtue signaling the correct thoughts and PC wokeness that is amenable right now, it would be published. The whole point of the virtue show is to signal it and appear morally right. To do it in secret accomplishes nothing, no company actually practices woke culture and shuts up about it.

I don't know why they would decline a T203, but this seems far fetched.

Yes and if this was the case it should have been a cut and dry response from them and not the crickets i got.

As absolutely ridiculous as i think it would be to pick and choose what cards you all of a sudden grade because the PC climate of the world we are i , i would not be so upset if they just said that from the start. That being said the lack of a reason gets me thinking how clueless they are atm.

James Gallo

bobbyw8469 · #4 11-19-2022, 10:57 AM

Wasn't there a boxing card from the 50's where the guy stood in front of a swastika? Do they not grade that one anymore?? How about the horrors of war card?

G1911 · #5 11-19-2022, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Wasn't there a boxing card from the 50's where the guy stood in front of a swastika? Do they not grade that one anymore?? How about the horrors of war card?

1956 Adventure Max Schmeling SP.

cammb · #6 11-19-2022, 12:23 PM

What is so offensive to some of you guys? Is it the white guy stealing a base or the white lady showing her underwear?

G1911 · #7 11-19-2022, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cammb

What is so offensive to some of you guys? Is it the white guy stealing a base or the white lady showing her underwear?

People are offended by the over the top characteristics of the cartoon caricature of one of the races depicted in this manner, because that person is not white. The child with the missing tooth who appears mentally disadvantaged is not offensive, because it portrays a white. I believe these are the current criteria. Not sure how this thread got here... Surely there is a different reason (or sheer incompetence) the card isn't being encapsulated.

BobC · #8 11-18-2022, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

Trying not to get drawn into a serious discussion here, especially in a public forum, about topics that could get me cancelled myself, if my views are considered to be sufficiently outside of the current orthodoxy.

But if we ignore all that, for any business that changes their policies around delivery of their services, it seems like they should be willing to publish that change in policy to their customers and potential customers, to avoid having those customers feeling abused when stuff like this happens.

I mean, when my local Taco Bell runs out of Nacho Fries and/or Mexican Pizzas, they at least have the good sense to post a sign so that I am alerted to it, and can instead direct my business to another fine dining establishment. A similar courtesy from our local friendly TPG would be a good way to go, if it is indeed the situation that their policies have changed.

OK, if you're really afraid to say to a TPG that it may be something to think about as part of their business and what they do, so be it. Just not sure how making such a comment either way will negatively impact you.

gabrinus · #9 11-18-2022, 11:42 PM

Not to change the subject but cool poster Greg...Jerry

Kutcher55 · #10 11-19-2022, 08:02 AM

Some guy on FB recently posted a freshly graded SGC 5 �63 Mantle that had a pube on the Mick�s chin. It was hilarious � the pube was shaped similarly to the Family Guy�s chin that seems to resemble a ballsack.

I think the owner is a net54 guy. Maybe he will share it here. It�s pretty hilarious although probably not for him.

bobbyw8469 · #11 11-19-2022, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutcher55

Some guy on FB recently posted a freshly graded SGC 5 �63 Mantle that had a pube on the Mick�s chin. It was hilarious � the pube was shaped similarly to the Family Guy�s chin that seems to resemble a ballsack.

I think the owner is a net54 guy. Maybe he will share it here. It�s pretty hilarious although probably not for him.

INSIDE the case?? Or outside?? I doubt very seriously that was slabbed like that.

Kutcher55 · #12 11-19-2022, 08:29 AM

Inside. At least that was the claim of the post. No reason to think the guy was making it up as I believe him to be a reputable sort.

jchcollins · #13 11-19-2022, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

INSIDE the case?? Or outside?? I doubt very seriously that was slabbed like that.

Yep! See above. That was me. It was totally slabbed like that, and stuck to the inside of the slab (thankfully not the card...) when I popped it.

Thanks for reaching out to me, Jason.

jimmer77 · #14 11-19-2022, 02:25 PM

They offered you more than me and I wasn't seeking anything except for them taking responsibility for putting a crease in a card that I subbed that wasn't previously creased. Brent blew me off, so I emailed Peter and 2 weeks later no response. I just ask that they let the grader know to be more careful and acknowledge that a mistake was made. So after 20+ years, I may finally be done with SGC...or until somebody more mature than Peter is steering the ship

D. Bergin · #15 11-19-2022, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutcher55

Some guy on FB recently posted a freshly graded SGC 5 �63 Mantle that had a pube on the Mick�s chin. It was hilarious � the pube was shaped similarly to the Family Guy�s chin that seems to resemble a ballsack.

I think the owner is a net54 guy. Maybe he will share it here. It�s pretty hilarious although probably not for him.

LOL, why does everybody always assume it's a pube. I'll never understand that.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #16 11-19-2022, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin

LOL, why does everybody always assume it's a pube. I'll never understand that.

Because they always are. I know of no other hobby that begets such a large number of errant examples. They're everywhere: cardboard boxes, poking out of jerseys, monster boxes, top loaders, and now they're even forever encased in plastic.

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