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Old 11-18-2022, 12:31 PM
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So they didn't really give a reason? Surely they, and all TPGs, should grade them?
Here are some raw Winner's below... I never thought about sending them in.

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I don't have much time to post here lately, but I feel this is important to post for various reasons.

I sent a 3 card submission to SGC last week, which arrived on the 14th

1917 Zeenut Bill Burns
T225 Abe Attell Blank Back possibly printer scrap
T203 Winner Cut A Fowl Bawl

I don't use SGC a ton anymore mostly because they don't have a registry and I am just not buying a ton of raw cards anymore. A day after they received the cards I got a refund for two of the cards. I sent an email asking what the refund was for and Brent told me it was for the T225 and T203.

I had sent in the T225 years ago but figured I would give it a go again. I have the full T203 Mayo set and have been working on the Winner set for years, they are ALL in SGC holders (30 or so cards) so I wanted to keep the new addition in the same holder. I had graded other T-203 in June of 2021.

After being told what the refund was for I asked why T-206 blank backs are graded which are likely scrap as well but more importantly why the hell a basic tobacco card is no longer being graded by SGC. Amazing I got NO response and my cards shipped today.

The fact that they wont grade a basic tobacco card just blows my mind. Blowing off my questions just seems to be pair for the course with grading companies these days anyway. For every one good thing they have 2-3 times as many issues and this is the last call for me.

So I guess if you intend to send SGC basic cards you better ask if they still grade them because who knows what the hell they will refuse these days.

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Old 11-18-2022, 12:35 PM
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So they didn't really give a reason? Surely they, and all TPGs, should grade them?
Here are some raw Winner's below... I never thought about sending them in.
Never seen these before. Pretty amazing/hilarious.
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Old 11-18-2022, 12:42 PM
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Never seen these before. Pretty amazing/hilarious.

After I sent a email saying thanks for the lack of response I quickly got a "we are looking into it" response but they already sent the cards back. The inconsistencies are out of control, they are more worried about turn around and building up the modern card market instead of the people who helped build up the company years ago and still give a damn.

Leon I don't have 4 of those if you want to sell them LMK. Thanks

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Old 11-18-2022, 12:46 PM
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Never seen these before. Pretty amazing/hilarious.
Here is my favorite from the set, and the only T203 I own.

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Old 11-18-2022, 12:58 PM
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Is the T225 one of the poster cuts? 99% of the blank backs are those.
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Old 11-18-2022, 01:09 PM
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Is the T225 one of the poster cuts? 99% of the blank backs are those.
No its the Prize Fighter Boxing series. Various backs but I have never seen a blank back
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Old 11-18-2022, 01:22 PM
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No its the Prize Fighter Boxing series. Various backs but I have never seen a blank back
I have 2 genuine T225 blank backs of the normal thickness. Those were the only ones I’ve been able to find. I made a thread on the boxing board recently asking if anyone knew of any others. Most of the blank backs listed and seen are the thin cutouts from the advertising poster. Very cool card! Cool to know there is indeed another one or there.

I’m building the master set of all 10 backs.
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Old 11-18-2022, 01:28 PM
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I have 2 genuine T225 blank backs of the normal thickness. Those were the only ones I’ve been able to find. I made a thread on the boxing board recently asking if anyone knew of any others. Most of the blank backs listed and seen are the thin cutouts from the advertising poster. Very cool card! Cool to know there is indeed another one or there.

I’m building the master set of all 10 backs.
Mine may very well be one of those cut out, but I have seen the Cracker Jack ones graded in the past so who knows. Is the back of the poster blank I am not sure I am familiar with it.

At one point I have all or nearly all the backs for Attell, but they refuse to note the backs and it became a pain some are far rarer then others. Good luck with the hunt.

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