PSA Stain Fail Rate: 75%

[G1911]

Grading is gambling if you're a commoner; an exercise in corruption when you're one of the favorites who get the gift grades.

[Bigdaddy]

Honestly, are you surprised? I wish someone would try the following exercise - submit the same card 10 or 15 or even 20 times to the same TPG. Then show the distribution of the grades, because they won't come back with the same number every time. Same card, same TPG.

There is an amount or randomness (+/- 0.75 pts?) in their human based grading. Why else would folks resubmit cards hoping for a 'bump'?

Nice cards, BTW.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Honestly, are you surprised? I wish someone would try the following exercise - submit the same card 10 or 15 or even 20 times to the same TPG. Then show the distribution of the grades, because they won't come back with the same number every time. Same card, same TPG.

There is an amount or randomness (+/- 0.75 pts?) in their human based grading. Why else would folks resubmit cards hoping for a 'bump'?

Nice cards, BTW.

I will give you an even better example. There are certain large PSA sellers who some think get special grades.

Randomly pick 10 numbers between 1 and 50 first. Then pull up the big sellers eBay account. Have their PSA 10 cards listed from cheapest to most expensive. Now take those 10 numbers you picked and buy those cards in order from cheapest to most expensive.

This is a fairly cheap way to prove the average person WILL NOT get the same 10 grade that the big sellers get for the same card. When I done this years ago I got more 7s back than 10s.

Hell I paid to get a card graded. Then paid again to try to get the flip corrected. After paying twice it is still mislabeled. Maybe I will pay a third time hoping they get it correct because that makes sense.

[ALBB]

Yea, this grading stuff can be a real crap shoot !

[raulus]

Hi Jolly:

I noticed that you covered the original certs. By chance were any of them early grades? I hear a lot around here how early grading was often more generous than current grading, so I’m always curious about whether that might have played a role in your experience here.

Naturally, if true, then that phenomenon is just another reason to question the legitimacy of a TPG whose results are inconsistent over time, albeit perhaps in a predictable fashion.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by raulus

Hi Jolly:

I noticed that you covered the original certs. By chance were any of them early grades? I hear a lot around here how early grading was often more generous than current grading, so I’m always curious about whether that might have played a role in your experience here.

Naturally, if true, then that phenomenon is just another reason to question the legitimacy of a TPG whose results are inconsistent over time, albeit perhaps in a predictable fashion.

The cards run the gamut of timeframes. Of the two that got the 'correct' number, one was pretty old and one was pretty new. Two of the three bad ones were old and one was the newest graded of the entire group. I only eliminated the certs to head off the contrarians who'll go look up the sold prices on-line (although I bought some of these in person) and change the direction of the thread the way they do.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

The cards run the gamut of timeframes. Of the two that got the 'correct' number, one was pretty old and one was pretty new. Two of the three bad ones were old and one was the newest graded of the entire group. I only eliminated the certs to head off the contrarians who'll go look up the sold prices on-line (although I bought some of these in person) and change the direction of the thread the way they do.

Cool cool. Totally understand, which is why I just inquired about them generally, rather than asking to see the old certs specifically.

And not really surprising that the results were so inconsistent.

Time to crack and resubmit!

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Of the two that got the 'correct' number, one was pretty old and one was pretty new.

If a card is submitted twice and gets two different grades, how do you know which grade is the 'correct' one?