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Old 11-09-2022, 09:08 PM
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I'm going to play devils advocate here on the trio of 1914 CJ's which ended last night on Ebay.

Since Ebay does not charge a buyers premium, if factoring in the 20% juice that would have been added on top of these prices if sold through an AH these actually weren't that far off.

The Psa 5 Jax from last night if a 20% BP were added would have been $126,120.00

The last Psa 5 Jax which sold for $240,000.00 was far superior to this example and was centered which many pay way up for these days. Now we can debate if it was $100K+ nicer, but it was nicer nonetheless. Prior to this $240K spike the last sell for a Psa 5 Jax was $116,400 on 8/8/21.

The Psa 4 Cobb from last night if a 20% BP were added would have been $59,721.60.

The last Psa 4 Cobb which sold (this exact card actually) ended at $58,800.00 on 8/15/21.

The Sgc 2 Matty from last night if a 20% BP were added would have been $61,920.00.

The last Sgc 2 Matty which sold (this exact card actually) ended at $64,156.40 on 8/28/21.

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This is quite possibly the most ridiculous post I have ever read on this site. BP is already factored in to the bids people make on cards at this level, or levels much lower. The unfortunate part is you are correct, these cards easily went for 20% less than they should have, if not more. But not because of the lack of BP on ebay. I had no idea that these were even up. I'm sure others missed them as well. They ended on the wrong day, a Monday, on the wrong site, and the day before an election.
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Old 11-09-2022, 10:11 PM
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This is quite possibly the most ridiculous post I have ever read on this site. BP is already factored in to the bids people make on cards at this level, or levels much lower. The unfortunate part is you are correct, these cards easily went for 20% less than they should have, if not more. But not because of the lack of BP on ebay. I had no idea that these were even up. I'm sure others missed them as well. They ended on the wrong day, a Monday, on the wrong site, and the day before an election.
I think the auction in question ended on Halloween, give or take a day, so maybe not the day before the election. Unless you voted early or by mail, in which case the election could have been any day in the last few weeks.
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Old 11-10-2022, 04:10 PM
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Old 11-10-2022, 04:22 PM
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This is quite possibly the most ridiculous post I have ever read on this site. BP is already factored in to the bids people make on cards at this level, or levels much lower. The unfortunate part is you are correct, these cards easily went for 20% less than they should have, if not more. But not because of the lack of BP on ebay. I had no idea that these were even up. I'm sure others missed them as well. They ended on the wrong day, a Monday, on the wrong site, and the day before an election.
Leaving out the wrong election claim, how does somebody not know about eBay and Probstein? It's very high visibility. Probstein is what, a top 2 or 3 seller? It's not some obscure listing at all.

My personal opinion is this means nothing; the card is a joke of a 5 with round corners and stains all over it. I'd get a 2 or 3 submitting it.
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Old 11-10-2022, 04:31 PM
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Leaving out the wrong election claim, how does somebody not know about eBay and Probstein? It's very high visibility. Probstein is what, a top 2 or 3 seller? It's not some obscure listing at all.

My personal opinion is this means nothing; the card is a joke of a 5 with round corners and stains all over it. I'd get a 2 or 3 submitting it.
If I’m not mistaken, there were a half dozen pieces cited. Are there similar overgrading issues with the others?
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If I’m not mistaken, there were a half dozen pieces cited. Are there similar overgrading issues with the others?
Yes. I would get a 2, not a 4, on that Cobb, with stains almost everywhere and some very dark ones, round corners, and what appears to be a corner crease too.

The Mathewson is literally missing a piece out of the bottom. That's a 1, not a 2.

That's all 3 that appear to have originally been cited. Some overgraded cards going for less 1 time is not a crisis. I don't think the investors need to panic here.

I mean, OH NO THE SKY IS FALLING!
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I mean, OH NO THE SKY IS FALLING!
That's more like it.
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Oh apparently I had the end date wrong, but I might have bid on a couple of these and completely missed the auction. I don't constantly search ebay for all cards I may be interested in, and would be more likely to have seen them in a heritage or REA auction. I believe there is a good chance others missed these as well.
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This is quite possibly the most ridiculous post I have ever read on this site. BP is already factored in to the bids people make on cards at this level, or levels much lower. The unfortunate part is you are correct, these cards easily went for 20% less than they should have, if not more. But not because of the lack of BP on ebay. I had no idea that these were even up. I'm sure others missed them as well. They ended on the wrong day, a Monday, on the wrong site, and the day before an election.
Wow, people really stretching to find an answer to why they sold for less. You Forgot the full moon in the 7th house and Jupiter aligned with Mars. Literally one person missing it on Ebay, getting their rest to hit the ballot box.

Better just saying people finally arent bidding with probstein.


But yet again they still bid with pwcc in their own platfirm
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