First Copeland Collection Pedigree Emerges from the Hobby Shadows

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Here it is:

Fantastic Jay.

[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Carl--Not sure what the big deal is. I have the 1916 Boston team postcard that was Copelands. It is easy to identify from the message on the back, but I also have the auctual auction tag and bought it from the lot winner in the original auction. I also know the collector who has the Copeland Anson in uniform. Again, easy to identify.

I picked up a Sotheby’s catalog from the Copeland sale off of ebay. That was an amazing collection. Everything from a Baltimore News Ruth to a complete run of press pins and everything in between. That has to be the single greatest auction ever for sports cards. I do wish that there are more pictures though.

If I owned something from that sale, I think that it would be really cool to have the original documentation.

Jay — I love that postcard, but isn’t it from 1915? The catalog does not show the back. Can you show an image of the back message that you mentioned? Is it one of the examples with a postmark from the 1915 World Series? That would be amazing.

[clamendo]

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure

I picked up a Sotheby’s catalog from the Copeland sale off of ebay. That was an amazing collection. Everything from a Baltimore News Ruth to a complete run of press pins and everything in between.

If I owned something from that sale, I think that it would be really cool to have the original documentation.

I love that 1915 Red Sox postcard. The catalog does not show the back. Can you show an image of the message that you mentioned? Is it one of the examples with a postmark from the 1915 World Series? That would be amazing.

Even if you won the powerball the other day and all the resources available to buy cards, you couldn’t put a collection like that together in 2022. I guess if you didn’t buy the 1914 Baltimore News Ruth, the postcard would be a nice consolation prize.


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[raulus]

Originally Posted by clamendo

Even if you won the powerball the other day and all the resources available to buy cards, you couldn’t put a collection like that together in 2022.

Yeah, but we would all have a lot of fun trying!!!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Fantastic Jay.

+1. Great postcard.
Looking through some of those old catalogs is fun.
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[RCMcKenzie]

For what it's worth, I think provenance is cool, and to me, it adds value. Anyway, nice cards.

[clamendo]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

For what it's worth, I think provenance is cool, and to me, it adds value. Anyway, nice cards.

Ironically, received this email as many have you have tonight from Heritage Auction.


Provenance.

For those not familiar with the word, what is it and how can it impact a collectible?

In the simple terms, provenance is evidence provided that establishes or documents the origin of the piece. It should never be considered a replacement for judging an item on its own merit, but it can add peace of mind and value to virtually any type of collectible.

Furthermore, there are varying ways to establish provenance that range from letters from the original source, accounts provided by someone else in the chain of custody to photo-matching. The key is evaluating the credibility of the provenance. This is where your intuition comes into play. The more complicated the story gets or the more each detail needs to be explained in order to connect the dots, the greater the credibility of the provenance comes into question.

On the other hand, when provenance is extraordinary, the collectible can separate itself from the rest of the pack because it completes the story behind the piece or, at minimum, adds to the story of how the item got here today. You can have two relatively identical items that are of the same quality on their own merit, but the factor that will often break the tie between them is credible provenance. Price premiums, sometimes enormous ones, are usually paid for the collectibles that possess it.