Top 25 Worst MLB HOFER’S

[yanks87]

I don’t think Edgar Martinez belongs in. All the WAR fans will say otherwise, for me, it comes down to a very simple fact. He didn’t play the field. Baines, Warner, and all the rest that are deemed OVERRATED still played the field.

I think the hall has gotten soft, and I think there are years that there shouldn’t be inductions, for the sake of inductions. If you are going to be inducted as a DH, in my mind, you have to achieve one of the gold standards for hitters, 3000 hits or 500 homers. Since they don’t field, to be the best of the best, which is what the hall is supposed to be about, you’d have to achieve at least one of those milestones.

Was he good, yes, very good, yes, hall of fame, not in my mind.

[sycks22]

Originally Posted by yanks87

I don’t think Edgar Martinez belongs in. All the WAR fans will say otherwise, for me, it comes down to a very simple fact. He didn’t play the field. Baines, Warner, and all the rest that are deemed OVERRATED still played the field.

I think the hall has gotten soft, and I think there are years that there shouldn’t be inductions, for the sake of inductions. If you are going to be inducted as a DH, in my mind, you have to achieve one of the gold standards for hitters, 3000 hits or 500 homers. Since they don’t field, to be the best of the best, which is what the hall is supposed to be about, you’d have to achieve at least one of those milestones.

Was he good, yes, very good, yes, hall of fame, not in my mind.

Martinez was a DH the last 9 years of his career, Baines was a DH the last 15 years. Tough to argue Baines played the field

[G1911]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Martinez was a DH the last 9 years of his career, Baines was a DH the last 15 years. Tough to argue Baines played the field

Games in the field (non-DH):
Edgar: 592
Baines: 1,061

Innings in the field:
Edgar: 4,829.1
Baines: 8,955.2

Tough to argue Baines didn't play almost twice as long in the field.

[sycks22]

Originally Posted by G1911

Games in the field (non-DH):
Edgar: 592
Baines: 1,061

Innings in the field:
Edgar: 4,829.1
Baines: 8,955.2

Tough to argue Baines didn't play almost twice as long in the field.

In the last 15 years of Baines' career he played 81 games in the field out of 1838 games. If playing 4% of your games in the field means you're playing the field then that's hilarious. That's an average of 6 games per 162 season. Would you consider Big Papi playing the field when he played 5 games a season at 1st? Come on. Obviously Baines will have more games in the field than Edgar as he played for 82 years.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by sycks22

In the last 15 years of Baines' career he played 81 games in the field out of 1838 games. If playing 4% of your games in the field means you're playing the field then that's hilarious. That's an average of 6 games per 162 season. Would you consider Big Papi playing the field when he played 5 games a season at 1st? Come on. Obviously Baines will have more games in the field than Edgar as he played for 82 years.

No, I would not consider 5 games to be a season in the field! Which is exactly why I used the reasonable metric of GAMES and innings!

I have no idea why you would only consider part of Baines career to look at their games at DH? Except, of course, that that's the only way to pretend that he didn't play almost twice as long in the field as Edgar. Which he did. As a matter of actual fact.

Harold Baines was a terrible choice for the Hall. We don't need to cut off 7 of his best seasons to make a gymnastics argument that he didn't play a lot more in the field than Edgar.