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Old 10-31-2022, 03:54 PM
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That was a very helpful thread Darren. I had forgotten about it. I did find the front difference you point out on the two different color backs I have. The Clemente with the darker line under his chin and mark by his ear occurs on my whiter version

I am sure this print defect has shown up here somewhere before. A friend would like to know if our print experts have a theory on how both the white letters and the mark below his lips may have occurred


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Old 11-08-2022, 04:23 PM
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Another cloud variation card....two different recurring copies with clouds behind the bat, on one copy the cloud almost reaches the helmet, the other doesn't.
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Old 11-09-2022, 03:23 PM
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Not a variation, just an oddity. Maybe everyone else already knows. The main pics are reversed but the insert photos are correct
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:22 AM
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Another 71 Pirate, #212 Hebner and I think a tough one. Finally found a second card with this defect to confirm it's not some other mark. Small black loop in the lower right of the white inner frame.

EDIT: Very similar to the long known Reberger #251, though not as easy.
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:36 AM
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#283 Dick Such, with a black line through the "e" in "pitcher". Found a second one online here.
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:52 AM
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Got my bimonthly 'box of vintage low grade rando's' from my dealer last week and sorting through all the 71's in it. #328 here of Don Buford WS has this blotch next to "GAME" in the card title. I'm 90% sure it's original printing but I can't find a second copy readily to confirm if it is a variant.
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Old 11-11-2022, 02:29 AM
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#426 Chris Cannizzaro, with and without a bold black spot on his glove. A look at COMC suggests both versions are roughly equally common.
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Old 12-06-2022, 07:42 AM
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Old 12-06-2022, 08:28 AM
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There must be an interesting story behind that accumulation
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Old 12-06-2022, 09:33 AM
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Default I’m Nick egnatz here’s a list I have made

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Old 12-06-2022, 10:13 AM
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The Mantle back defect is shared with 6 or 7 other cards in the 58 set which were on the same sheet. See post 2334 above. There is also a recurring print defect on the front of the 58 Mantle if you are interested.

Thanks for posting your list. I see some stuff I am not familiar with. Have you been all through this thread ?


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Old 12-06-2022, 12:25 PM
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What’s the print defect/error on the front of 1958 mantle?
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Old 12-06-2022, 01:23 PM
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1966 Ron santo league spelled leagu

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Old 12-06-2022, 06:03 PM
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Default I keep trying to show more pictures but it won’t let me

If any of you guys are on Facebook I have a group to join vintage errors variations and master set builders
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Old 12-06-2022, 06:10 PM
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I still find that the 1958 mantle will become a huge card in the hobby based on how rare it is 1 day
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Old 12-06-2022, 06:17 PM
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Old 12-06-2022, 07:31 PM
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I used to hoard these 2 cards like crazy, but have since sold off almost all of them pictured except 7 I think
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Old 12-06-2022, 08:13 PM
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That is quite a stash of the Williams and Robinson variations. There is a 55 variation of the Wehmeier card like the Williams.

There is a transition card for the 59 Grammas where the black blob is partially gone.

Hope you are right about the 58 Mantle but am skeptical
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Old 12-06-2022, 08:45 PM
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Yep, I have 2 wehmeiers with no dot clipped logo asterisk….

Also for 1955 topps removed one of duke sniders dots

And for 1954 topps removed one of duke sniders dots

People have already offered me 3x 4x what I have paid for some of my mantles they are very hard to obtain compared to partial diamond or no dots teds….why I sold most of those off and kept the ones I couldn’t bare to part with
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Old 12-06-2022, 09:02 PM
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Default Duke sniders

Of all the topps removed dots cards my absolute favorite is ted Williams…that Topps actually looked at it and said those dots are in the wrong spot….but Ted had always said when I was younger I put my dots in the wrong spot to throw off clubhouse signatures……unfortunately there’s enough out there that no premium is added unless Psa ever recognizes it
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:54 AM
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Cliff those are really cool they are a prime example of too much water in the ink….. same as my 1966 mantle and 1958 Aaron both posted above…..when ever I see drastic versions of these I buy them!

Also my 1958 obrien pictured too!
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Old 12-07-2022, 11:11 AM
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59 Grammas transition
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Old 12-07-2022, 11:32 AM
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You have all 3!….so you have 1959 Casey wise white mohawk too?
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Old 12-07-2022, 12:05 PM
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Yes, and there is a back defect as well. Do you have scans of your 52 Kell, yellow line outside stars, and the 53 Mizell with runs obscured on back
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Old 12-07-2022, 12:37 PM
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Old 12-07-2022, 12:41 PM
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Default Here’s another

You can dismiss kell as print plate alignment issue
And ashburn as another print bleed
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Thanks. When hit the Mizell link I first thought I was just getting a tutorial on the IRA
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I did not know about the Mizell. Good stuff
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Old 12-07-2022, 03:40 PM
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Default 1968 Topps #437 Cardwell, Back Color

I am familiar with the Milton Bradley back color variation on game cards between 7-195, but did Topps also use different color stock on higher numbers?

I appreciate any comments.

Thanks,

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Here’s another discovery of mine but something tells me you guys are already ahead of me and know of this card
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Here’s another discovery of mine but something tells me you guys are already ahead of me and know of this card
New one on me, but COMC acknowledges it.
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Good one Ted, but you just violated Shane's recently promulgated law
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I would like to take this moment to apologize to Shane for my past behavior and conduct in discussing variations on cards of players who played for the Cardinals. It is with a heavy heart and great regret for my past conduct that I stand here today, taking responsibility for my cruel and thoughtless actions. Not only did I participate in discussions about variants on Cardinals cards, I went even further into transgression and occasionally shared a new one. I hope that I may some day be forgiven, if not in my time on Earth, then in the next life, but forgiveness is not needed for me to take ownership and admit to the shameful sin I have committed. It will never, ever happen again, maybe. Shane, definitely don’t look at post #2,397.
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