New Buck Ewing cabinet card, provenance needed?

[bigfanNY]

"Not CY Young " listing also has these gems. The middle photo is alleged to be Mike Kelly!!!
At some point you cross a line between being really bad a photo matching and ......
Jonathan Sterling

[Schwertfeger1007]

This guy is something else....

[G1911]

I'd vote this is a joke, but there appear to be many collectors that think any card ever made must picture a baseball player.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Many moons ago, I was an avid 10 year-old baseball history nut and collector. I was in an antique store and was convinced I found a cabinet of Cap Anson.

By the time I turned 11, I realized that to the untrained eye, every man from the 1880's with a moustache looked like Cap Anson.

I still have that cabinet somewhere, which is worth the same $3 I paid for it way back when. Accounting for inflation, I've lost money on it.

[Fred]

Crap, did I miss out on yet another GREAT cabinet? Why do I keep missing out?

[Detroit58]

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[Detroit58]

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[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

"Not CY Young " listing also has these gems. The middle photo is alleged to be Mike Kelly!!!
At some point you cross a line between being really bad a photo matching and ......
Jonathan Sterling

That " King Kelly" is nowhere close!

[rjackson44]

Its not buck ewing not even close

[Detroit58]

Can somebody besides me post facial recognition work? Is anybody capable? I know 2 different cabinets that pass recognition apps at 95 are a dime a dozen, but is anyone at Net54 capable of facial recognition work? Just a honest question. Can any of you who posted add your photo recognition? I know your not calling me a joker unless you did some honest recognition work.

[doug.goodman]

96.7 % similarity scores

[Fred]

Doug, you asshole. I was eating something while reading this thread and half of what I was eating landed on my keyboard when I read your post...

[Detroit58]

So which of the chronies does facial recognition? Anybody. Frauds.

[Detroit58]

Hello world of Net54. I have 2 Buck Ewing cabinet cards. Do any of you know how to do facial recognition? Can anybody recommend a website that has people who might know how to do facial recognition work?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Fred

Doug, you asshole. I was eating something while reading this thread and half of what I was eating landed on my keyboard when I read your post...

I apologize...

For smiling devilishly while reading your post.

Doug "Aren't we all frauds on some level?" Goodman

[Detroit58]

I want physical recognition facial recognition. Anybody with half a brain can see your words are worth dog poop

[Detroit58]

Can we start with which of the 2 cabinets you are talking about to be fair or if you want to look as smart as you think you are. I would love to address your words, but start with what you are addressing champ

[judsonhamlin]

Oh, what the heck. Let me make a couple of observations- one personal and one professional.
I have idly looked through bins of old photos in antique stores up and down the east coast for quite a while (I like old landscape/architecture photos) and never in the history of ever looked at a cabinet of an old guy with a mustache and Edwardian clothes and thought ‘damn, that’s …’ . The odds of it being a pro ball player are close to zero and certainly even more remote are the odds of it being an all time great. The odds of me winning the NYC Marathon are better.
On a professional level, as a career prosecutor, I can say that blind reliance on facial recognition software is misplaced at best. I know of several cases where criminal charges were brought based solely on such comparisons which were 100% false and led to dismissal of charges and civil actions for wrongful arrest. It may not be as ‘junk’ science as bitemark analysis or lead analysis for matching spent projectiles to other unused cartridges but it’s not far off.
Plus, what the doc in post 28 said.

[Klrdds]

OK I'll bite . I usually don't get involved in this sort of thing . I basically post on the autograph side but here I go .
I feel it is not Buck Ewing for the following anatomical reasons (I am a dentist with a practice concentrated on implant restorations and cosmetics ) so here I go :

1.The Helix of the ear in the left photo is compressed close to the scalp on the right in the Buck photo the Helix protrudes away from the scalp.
2.On the left photo the Antihelix is larger than the Antihelix in the Buck photo
3.On the left photo the External Auditory Meatus is larger in diameter and rises higher in the left photo than in the Buck photo
4.The Tragus in the left photo is lower and more pointed than in Buck's photo
5.The Lobe in the left photo is not attached ( it's called free in some terminology ) to the face / posterior cheek area above the TMJ area with a clearly defined separation between the face and ear lobe and this face / ear lobe area while in Buck's photo the same area appears attached lower with little or no separation between the face / jaw and ear lobe . This is a genetic trait passed from parents to offspring.
6.The angle of emergence of the ear from the head on the left photo is less with a farther back position than in the Buck photo
7. The distance from the head to the helix of the ear and from the head to the lobe is greater in Buck's photo than in the photo on the left
8. Lastly the overall gross ear position in the photo on the left appears higher in relation to the mandibular ( lower ) jaw angle /line than in Buck' photo .
Also remember the eyes remain the same size from birth to death and the basic socket form doesn't change during our life either , it may wrinkle but the shape remains the same unless you get an eyelid tuck
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I say it's not Buck Ewing and I've been looking at and studying baseball for over 50 years.

So there's my facial analysis from looking at faces for years . If wrong I will apologize .

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

OK I'll bite . I usually don't get involved in this sort of thing . I basically post on the autograph side but here I go .
I feel it is not Buck Ewing for the following anatomical reasons (I am a dentist with a practice concentrated on implant restorations and cosmetics ) so here I go :

1.The Helix of the ear in the left photo is compressed close to the scalp on the right in the Buck photo the Helix protrudes away from the scalp.
2.On the left photo the Antihelix is larger than the Antihelix in the Buck photo
3.On the left photo the External Auditory Meatus is larger in diameter and rises higher in the left photo than in the Buck photo
4.The Tragus in the left photo is lower and more pointed than in Buck's photo
5.The Lobe in the left photo is not attached ( it's called free in some terminology ) to the face / posterior cheek area above the TMJ area with a clearly defined separation between the face and ear lobe and this face / ear lobe area while in Buck's photo the same area appears attached lower with little or no separation between the face / jaw and ear lobe . This is a genetic trait passed from parents to offspring.
6.The angle of emergence of the ear from the head on the left photo is less with a farther back position than in the Buck photo
7. The distance from the head to the helix of the ear and from the head to the lobe is greater in Buck's photo than in the photo on the left
8. Lastly the overall gross ear position in the photo on the left appears higher in relation to the mandibular ( lower ) jaw angle /line than in Buck' photo .
Also remember the eyes remain the same size from birth to death and the basic socket form doesn't change during our life either , it may wrinkle but the shape remains the same unless you get an eyelid tuck
.
I say it's not Buck Ewing and I've been looking at and studying baseball for over 50 years.

So there's my facial analysis from looking at faces for years . If wrong I will apologize .

This is quite informative. Thank you for sharing your insight.

[bigfanNY]

Thank You Eric. When I read a thread like this and see a collector has strayed so far. I feel it is up to us to set them on a propper course.