Condition Sensitive

[Rhotchkiss]

Great thread Ethan.

I cant wait till Brian posts -- he has some of the all-time best beaters

Here are two major beaters in my collection. However, the Tango eggs is a 1 of 1 and the Blue Crofts is a wicked rare (that's a technical term), so beggars cant be choosers

[ullmandds]

Most t216 ve’s are in horrible condition. Thx to steve for this gem.

[G1911]

The Tango Cobb is one of my favorite pre-war cards.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Most t216 ve’s are in horrible condition. Thx to steve for this gem.

I agree, because the cards are so darn thin. Keep in mind, however, that to a low condition collector like me, most cards are prone to severe damage.

Another set that comes to mind that is rarely seen above poor condition is the 1923 Lections set. This Hornsby would almost be considered in top condition for the issue (card not mine):

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Great thread Ethan.

I cant wait till Brian posts -- he has some of the all-time best beaters

Here are two major beaters in my collection. However, the Tango eggs is a 1 of 1 and the Blue Crofts is a wicked rare (that's a technical term), so beggars cant be choosers

My type of cards Ryan. And thanks Ryan...it is nice to be known for something, and I have enjoyed collecting in my little counter-card culture cubbyhole. Here are some of my cards from what I consider condition sensitive sets that have been senselessly desensitized to the serious damage they have suffered.

Shown below: 1914 Cracker Jack, T213 Coupon, Crescent Ice Cream, E125 American Caramel, T216 Kotton, George C. Miller, Indianapolis Brewing, and Zeenut (almost all years, but especially from the 1920's through the early 1930's).

Brian

[CobbSpikedMe]

Since Zeenuts have come up a few times, why are there so many that are just beat to hell? Sometimes with creases that indicate they were folded up into tiny squares and unfolded several times even.


Cards not mine, just examples from the wild.



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[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Since Zeenuts have come up a few times, why are there so many that are just beat to hell? Sometimes with creases that indicate they were folded up into tiny squares and unfolded several times even.

Cards not mine, just examples from the wild.

Kids would play a 'gambling' game with them called 'shooting', I believe similar to pitching pennies. As the result, kids would clip corners, roll them up, put wax on them to gain a supposed advantage. I guess a West Coast kinda thing.

Brian

[brianp-beme]

Here are some backs of Zeenut cards that allude to this shooting game. The bottom right card says "Bad luck don't use this one for a (tore?) as it will bounce back. And you will lose"

Brian

[G1911]

E105 Mello Mint - because a lot of them, as I understand it, were folded in the package and came out of the box creased to begin with.

[jimq16415]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Kids would play a 'gambling' game with them called 'shooting', I believe similar to pitching pennies. As the result, kids would clip corners, roll them up, put wax on them to gain a supposed advantage. I guess a West Coast kinda thing.

Brian

Thanks! So much knowledge here, I never would have thought of that. I just knew it took me a long time to find a Nevers in any condition!

[CobbSpikedMe]

Yeah, thanks Brian. Never knew about the Shooter game. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.



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Not to mention the 1945-1946 Caramelo Deportivo Cuban League thin paper

[brianp-beme]

No problem Andy and Jim. I love that Zeenut card that I quoted...it is almost like a historical document on Zeenut Shooting.

Brian

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Great thread Ethan.

I cant wait till Brian posts -- he has some of the all-time best beaters

Here are two major beaters in my collection. However, the Tango eggs is a 1 of 1 and the Blue Crofts is a wicked rare (that's a technical term), so beggars cant be choosers

Scott, what is the story behind the 1 of 1 Cobb Tango? Was it a test card or a proof? The red printing shown doesn't exist, I think, on any other Tango. Your acquisition of the card must be an interesting take.

[jimq16415]

These are usually in bad shape, or at least the ones I can afford are bad. This one is bad but looks way worse because of the PSA baggie.

[t206kid]

1914 Cracker Jacks. The war paper + grading makes zero sense.

[Fred]

Cards with the thinnest stock: T200, T222, Cracker Jacks