T202 -- Red back ink v. Black

[nolemmings]

Almost certainly no chance that all were printed with Black Fact. 30.

Likely all can be found with Red Fact. 30. I will check later if you do not hear from someone else first. Is there one or more cards in particular you wonder about?

[Marslife]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Almost certainly no chance that all were printed with Black Fact. 30.

Likely all can be found with Red Fact. 30. I will check later if you do not hear from someone else first. Is there one or more cards in particular you wonder about?

thanks Todd!

i am 33 cards into a set, mostly Red F30 backs, thought i would check to verify that a full Red F30 set is possible, before I declare an official quest :-)

Also, since I am a back collector, just generally interested in how many Black F30 backs can be found.

Thanks again!

[nolemmings]

Using the checklist found in Old Carboard, here is a list of those Red Fact 30's I have confirmed. I have updated the list but can't locate it right now.
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Please note that I was only reviewing and copying scans of T202s graded 5 or higher-- not that the others weren't worthwhile but I had to start somewhere and there are tons of T202s out there to check. Any additions to this list with front and back scans would be appreciated, but having one not listed by no means makes it scarce IMO --could save me some work though

[nolemmings]

I cleaned it up by cutting and pasting the OC checklist (Thanks Lyman). Those in bold are T202 cards that I have confirmed having Red Fact. 30 backs-- undoubtedly more will follow:

(1) (POSE 1a) A Close Play at Home Plate (Wallace, LaPorte) Browns
(2) (1b) A Close Play at Home Plate (Wallace, Pelty) Browns
(3) (2) A Desperate Slide for Third (O'Leary, Cobb) Tigers
(4) (3a) A Great Batsman (Barger, Bergen) Superbas
(5) (3b) A Great Batsman (Rucker, Bergen) Superbas
(6) (4) Ambrose McConnell at Bat (Blair*, Quinn) Highlanders
(7) (5) A Wide Throw Saves Crawford (Mullin, Stanage) Tigers
(8) (6) Baker Gets His Man (Collins, Baker) Athletics
(9) (7) Birmingham Gets to Third (Johnson, Street) Senators/Highlanders
(10) (8) Birmingham's Home Run (Birmingham, Turner) Naps
(11) (9) Bush Just Misses Austin (Moran, Magee) Phillies
(12) (10a) Carrigan Blocks His Man (Gaspar, McLean) Reds
(13) (10b) Carrigan Blocks His Man (Wagner, Carrigan) Red Sox
(14) (11) Catching Him Napping (Oakes, Bresnahan) Cardinals
(15) (12) Caught Asleep Off First (Bresnahan, Harmon) Cardinals
(16) (13a) Chance Beats Out a Hit (Chance, Foxen) Cubs
(17) (13b) Chance Beats Out a Hit (McIntire, Archer) Cubs
(18) (13c) Chance Beats Out a Hit (Overall, Archer) Cubs
(19) (13d) Chance Beats Out a Hit (Rowan, Archer) Cubs
(20) (13e) Chance Beats Out a Hit (Shean, Chance) Cubs
(21) (14a) Chase Dives into Third (Chase, Wolter) Highlanders
(22) (14b) Chase Dives into Third (Gibson, Clarke) Pirates
(23) (14c) Chase Dives into Third (Phillippe, Gibson) Pirates
(24) (15a) Chase Gets Ball Too late (Egan, Mitchell) Reds
(25) (15b) Chase Gets Ball Too late (Wolter, Chase) Highlanders
(26) (16a) Chase Guarding First (Chase, Wolter) Highlanders
(27) (16b) Chase Guarding First (Gibson, Clarke) Pirates
(28) (16c) Chase Guarding First (Liefield, Gibson) Pirates
(29) (17) Chase Ready for the Squeeze Play (Paskert, Magee) Phillies
(30) (18) Chase Safe at Third (Barry, Baker) Athletics
(31) (19) Chief Bender Waiting for a Good One (Bender, Thomas) Athletics
(32) (20) Clark Hikes for Home (Bridwell, Kling) Rustlers
(33) (21) Close at First (Ball, Stovall) Naps/Browns
(34) (22a) Close at the Plate (Walsh, Payne) White Sox
(35) (22b) Close at the Plate (White, Payne) White Sox
(36) (23) Close at Third (Wood*, Speaker) Red Sox
(37) (24) Close at Third (Wagner, Carrigan) Red Sox
(38) (25a) Collins Easily Safe (Byrne, Clarke) Pirates
(39) (25b) Collins Easily Safe (Collins, Baker) Athletics
(40) (25c) Collins Easily Safe (Collins, Murphy) Athletics
(41) (26) Crawford About to Smash One (Stanage, Summers) Tigers
(42) (27) Cree Rolls Home (Daubert, Hummell) Superbas
(43) (28) Davy Jones' Great Slide (Delahanty, Jones) Tigers
(44) (29a) Devlin Gets His Man (Devlin [Giants], Mathewson) Giants
(45) (29b) Devlin Gets His Man (Devlin [Rustlers], Mathewson) Rustlers/Giants
(46) (29c) Devlin Gets His Man (Fletcher, Mathewson) Giants
(47) (29d) Devlin Gets His Man (Meyers, Mathewson) Giants
(48) (30a) Donlin Out at First (Camnitz, Gibson) Pirates
(49) (30b) Donlin Out at First (Doyle, Merkle) Giants
(50) (30c) Donlin Out at First (Leach, Wilson) Pirates
(51) (30d) Donlin Out at First (Magee, Dooin) Phillies
(52) (30e) Donlin Out at First (Phillipe, Gibson) Pirates
(53) (31a) Dooin Gets His Man (Dooin, Doolan) Phillies
(54) (31b) Dooin Gets His Man (Lobert, Dooin) Phillies
(55) (31c) Dooin Gets His Man (Titus, Dooin) Phillies
(56) (32) Easy For Larry (Doyle, Merkle) Giants
(57) (33) Elberfeld Beats the Throw (Milan, Elberfeld) Senators
(58) (34) Elberfeld Gets His Man (Milan, Elberfeld) Senators
(59) (35) Engle in a Close Play (Speaker, Engle) Red Sox
(60) (36a) Evers Makes a Safe Slide (Archer, Evers) Cubs
(61) (36b) Evers Makes a Safe Slide (Evers, Chance) Cubs
(62) (36c) Evers Makes a Safe Slide (Overall, Archer) Cubs
(63) (36d) Evers Makes a Safe Slide (Ruelbach, Archer) Cubs
(64) (36e) Evers Makes a Safe Slide (Tinker, Chance) Cubs
(65) (37) Fast Work at Third (O'Leary, Cobb) Tigers
(66) (38a) Ford Putting Over a Spitter (Ford, Vaughan) Highlanders
(67) (38b) Ford Putting Over a Spitter (Sweeney, Ford) Highlanders
(68) (39) Good Play at Third (Moriarty, Cobb) Tigers
(69) (40) Grant Gets His Man (Hoblitzell, Grant) Reds
(70) (41a) Hal Chase Too Late (McIntyre, McConnell) Whit Sox
(71) (41b) Hal Chase Too Late (Suggs, McLean) Reds
(72) (42) Harry Lord at Third (Lennox, Tinker) Cubs
(73) (43) Hartzell Covering Third (Scanlan, Dahlen) Superbas
(74) (44) Hartsel Strikes Out (Groom, Gray) Senators
(75) (45) Held at Third (Tannehill, Lord) White Sox
(76) (46) Jake Stahl Guarding First (Cicotte, Stahl) Red Sox
(77) (47) Jim Delehanty at Bat (Delehanty, Jones) Tigers
(78) (48a) Just Before the Battle (Ames, Meyers) Giants
(79) (48b) Just Before the Battle (Breshanhan, McGraw) Cardinals/Giants
(80) (48c) Just Before the Battle (Crandall, Meyers) Giants
(81) (48d) Just Before the Battle (Devore, Becker) Giants
(82) (48e) Just Before the Battle (Fletcher, Mathewson) Giants
(83) (48f) Just Before the Battle (Marquard, Meyers) Giants
(84) (48g) Just Before the Battle (McGraw, Jennings) Giants/Tigers
(85) (48h) Just Before the Battle (Meyers, Mathewson) Giants
(86) (48i) Just Before the Battle (Snodgrass, Murray) Giants
(87) (48j) Just Before the Battle (Wiltse, Meyers) Giants
(88) (49) Knight Catches a Runner (Knight, Johnson) Senators
(89) (50a) Lobert Almost Caught (Bridwell, Kling) Rustlers
(90) (50b) Lobert Almost Caught (Kling, Young) Rustlers/Braves
(91) (50c) Lobert Almost Caught (Mattern, Kling) Rustlers
(92) (50d) Lobert Almost Caught (Steinfeldt, Kling) Rustlers
(93) (51) Lobert Gets Tenney (Lobert, Dooin) Phillies
(94) (52) Lord Catches His Man (Tannehill, Lord) White Sox
(95) (53) McConnell Caught (Richie, Needham) Cubs
(96) (54) McIntyre at Bat (McIntyre, McConnell) White Sox
(97) (55) Moriarty Spiked (Willett, Stanage) Tigers
(98) (56) Nearly Caught (Bates, Bescher) Reds
(99) (57) Oldring Almost Home (Lord, Oldring) Athletics
(100) (58) Schaefer on First (McBride, Milan) Senators
(101) (59) Schaefer Steals Second (McBride, Griffith) Washington
(102) (60) Scoring From Second (Lord, Oldring) Athletics
(103) (61a) Scrambling Back to First (Barger, Bergen) Superbas
(104) (61b) Scrambling Back to First (Wolter, Chase) Highlanders
(105) (62) Speaker Almost Caught (Miller, Clarke) Pirates
(106) (63) Speaker Rounding Third (Wood*, Speaker) Red Sox
(107) (64) Speaker Scores (Speaker, Engle) Red Sox
(108) (65) Stahl Safe (Stovall, Austin) Browns
(109) (66) Stone About to Swing (Sheckard, Schulte) Cubs
(110) (67a) Sullivan Puts up a High One (Evans, Huggins) Cardinals
(111) (67b) Sullivan Puts up a High One (Groom, Gray) Senators
(112) (68a) Sweeney Gets Stahl (Ford, Vaughan) Highlanders
(113) (68b) Sweeney Gets Stahl (Sweeney, Ford) Highlanders
(114) (69) Tenney Lands Safely (Raymond, Latham) Giants
(115) (70a) The Athletic Infield (Barry, Baker) Athletics
(116) (70b) The Athletic Infield (Brown, Graham) Cubs
(117) (70c) The Athletic Infield (Hauser, Konetchy) Cardinals
(118) (70d) The Athletic Infield (Krause, Thomas) Athletics
(119) (71) The Pinch Hitter (Hoblitzell, Egan) Reds
(120) (72) The Scissors Slide (Birmingham, Turner) Naps
(121) (73a) Tom Jones at Bat (Fromme, McLean) Reds
(122) (73b) Tom Jones at Bat (Gaspar, McLean) Reds
(123) (74a) Too Late for Devlin (Ames, Meyers) Giants
(124) (74b) Too Late for Devlin (Crandall, Meyers) Giants
(125) (74c) Too Late for Devlin (Devlin [Giants], Mathewson) Giants
(126) (74d) Too Late for Devlin (Devlin [Rustlers], Mathewson) Rustlers/Giants
(127) (74e) Too Late for Devlin (Marquard, Meyers) Giants
(128) (74f) Too Late for Devlin (Wiltse, Meyers) Giants
(129) (75a) Ty Cobb Steals Third (Jennings, Cobb) Tigers
(130) (75b) Ty Cobb Steals Third (Moriarty, Cobb) Tigers
(131) (75c) Ty Cobb Steals Third (Stovall, Austin) Browns
(132) (76) Wheat Strikes Out (Dahlen, Wheat) Superbas

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Using the checklist found in Old Carboard, here is a list of those Red Fact 30's I have confirmed.

Any additions to this list with front and back scans would be appreciated, but having one not listed by no means makes it scarce IMO --could save me some work though

I've got 4 different red factory 30s not on your list:

[Mark17]

My only black Factory 30:

[Marslife]

Hey Todd!

two more updates to your list:

F30 Reds in my possession:

(12) (10a) Carrigan Blocks His Man (Gaspar, McLean) Reds
(33) (21) Close at First (Ball, Stovall) Naps/Browns


FYI
Factory 30 black confirmed
(33) (21) Close at First (Ball, Stovall) Naps/Browns

Thanks for keeping track!

Cliff

[cubman1941]

couple more

[Jeff_cvc]

I’m currently out of town, but can send pics when I get back.

Fac. 30 Red to add:
Dooin Gets his Man, Dooin, Doolan
Dooin Gets his Man, Dooin, Titus
Jim Delahanty at Bat, Delahanty, Jones
Just Before the Battle, Jennings, McGraw
The Athletic Infield, Brown, Graham

Fac. 30 Black to add:
Ambrose McConnell at Bat, Blair, Quinn
Schaefer Steals Second, Griffith, McBride

Fun project!