Casey Stengel and Dave Roberts...

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by BobC

Just off the top of my head, what about Connie Mack? Appeared in the 1887 - 1889 Old Judge issue, followed by various issues throughout the years. He eventually even had his own designated issue of cards in 1951 with the Topps' Connie Mack All-Stars. He was in the 1961 Fleer Baseball Greats series, 1963 Bazooka All-Time Greats cards, and has appeared in other issues and sets over the years since then as well.

When was Macks last year managing? Wow, just looked it up, 1950 at the age of 87, 63 years in baseball, so if we count his 1951 Connie Mack All Stars card as his last playing day card he takes the cake.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

When was Macks last year managing? Wow, just looked it up, 1950 at the age of 87, 63 years in baseball, so if we count his 1951 Connie Mack All Stars card as his last playing day card he takes the cake.

Yeah, if you only count when they were actively playing, managing, or coaching, I think Mack may be the man to beat.

[michael3322]

Also, add to this, Mack spent more time as the manager of a team than anyone else in baseball history by a country mile...


1901-50 Connie Mack, Athletics (50 seasons)

Mack’s entire career was legendary. During his time with the A’s, which began when he was just 38 years old, the team totaled nine pennants, with five of those resulting in World Series titles. Only two managers -- fellow Hall of Famers Joe McCarthy and Casey Stengel -- won more titles, with seven each.

Next up...

1902-32 John McGraw, Giants (31 seasons)

The 29-year-old McGraw signed with the Giants during the season in 1902 after the player/manager was released by the Orioles, beginning a tenure that would last until 1932. Primarily an infielder, he spent his first five years with the Giants as a player/manager before becoming solely the skipper. During his span with New York, the Giants won 10 pennants and converted three of those into World Series titles. The Giants had a .591 winning percentage during McGraw’s time in charge.

Source: MLB, Skippers who stuck with 1 team the longest.

[michael3322]

Almost forgot...

Associated Press Connie Mack, in his customary suit and tie, talking with Casey Stengel in spring training of 1934.

[Yoda]

And let us not forget that Casey hit the first HR (inside the park) at the old Yankee Stadium.

[frankbmd]

He was older than my grandfather when he signed for me in 1957.

To be honest, he was always older than my grandfather.

[Orioles1954]

Would you the Yankees have 27 titles in the playoff era? No.

Would the Yankees have won others if the playoff era existed in those days? Most probably.

Is the 2020 Los Angeles Dodgers World Series title legitimate? I consider it a partial title.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

He was older than my grandfather when he signed for me in 1957.

To be honest, he was always older than my grandfather.

He was 82 when I sat next to him at Dodger Stadium in 1972 with my Grandfather. He looked 90 in a leisure suit jacket that looked like a horse blanket in the 100+ degree heat on a Sunday afternoon in the sun.

My grandfather whispered to me, "That's Casey Stengel". When he found out my name was Chuck/Charles...he signed my program, To Charles, from Charles Casey Stengel.....3 times. I cherished that program until it turned up "LOST". I have all my other programs from that ERA. How I wish it would show up somewhere so I can buy it, LOL.

Eventually, it seemed like the entire ballpark lined up to get his autograph, LOL. A very special day with my Grandpa I will never forget.

This is all I have now. and a neat story for my Grandkids, who can look him up on Wikipedia. I had to look him up with "baseball cards"

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by michael3322

Almost forgot...

Associated Press Connie Mack, in his customary suit and tie, talking with Casey Stengel in spring training of 1934.

Mr. Mack: Now Casey I promise I won't divulge this sexually compromising photo if you trade me your best Brooklyn players at a deep discount.

Casey: Gee, Connie, er Mr. Mack, I don't think I have any.

[Exhibitman]

God himself could not have won with the 1962-65 Mets rosters.

The Yankees did have many really good players in the Stengel years. Solid players but not the guys you'd think of as top-tier players or HOFers. The Dodgers seemed way more front-loaded for most of that time: Campanella, Hodges, Reese, Robinson, Furillo, Snider come to mind. The Yankees were really deep, and that wins games.

I forgot about Rizzuto (just like the HOF voters); definitely was an integral starter during the 5-pennant run. Mize was a HOFer but he only appeared in over 100 games once in his Yankees days.

A team can have all the talent in the world but management decisions can drive the clown car off the road. Like the 1982-94 Yankees. The Boss kept signing whoever and the teams won lots of games but nothing in the post-season.

All that aside, I am not sure Roberts should get run. He had to contend with some season-ending critical injuries (losing Buehler was huge; went from 4th in Cy Young voting to sayonara for 2022). Add to that Bellinger (pronounced "turd") and you are down two critical players. I think he did really well regardless. The short format playoffs just favor a streaky team.