Pujols, Mr. September

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Because there are a lot of dipshits here who get triggered and go nuts by anything that does not accord with a narrative they made up.

We got through like ten posts with reasonable discourse, so that’s pretty good.

I don't see why pointing out facts gets translated into hating or bashing someone. I have said all along I like Pujols and he's an all time great player. That doesn't mean one should not critically examine numbers.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't see why pointing out facts gets translated into hating or bashing someone. I have said all along I like Pujols and he's an all time great player. That doesn't mean one should not critically examine numbers.

I forget who, but someone with a lot more brain cells than me observed something along the lines of “expecting people to be reasonable is the most eminently unreasonable thing”. I wish I knew why any attempt to deal in reality brings this out, pretty much everywhere where man speaks. Many people simply do not live in a state of rationality, and many of us apparently do not live in the state of hyper emotion that many others do.

[ClementeFanOh]

PeterSpaeth- couldn't have scripted your responses better if I wrote them
myself. What's next? Will you examine the need for basketball players to
miss shots, in order for great rebounders to accumulate the rebounds?
(Don't answer that, please...)

1911- nope, the "he doesn't agree so he must be irrational" argument is a
non-starter. Back to the basement for you! Just keep imagining that the "bad
man must be crazy", I know how important it is that you win all arguments in
your own mind.

Trent King (written without any increase in blood pressure and a complete
lack of wild- eyed irrationality)

[G1911]

Well, the fantasy arguments and statements I have never made and are absent from the transcript that ClementeFan imagines happened are certainly nutball.

Thankfully we have this clear headed thinker to completely make things up, get pissed off at statements of actual fact, completely lie, and flip out constantly instead of filling his med prescription. Diogenes has found his rational man, the lamp may be retired.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I thought Diogenes was looking for an honest man, not a rational one lol.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought Diogenes was looking for an honest man, not a rational one lol.

In the source Greek, from long after Diogenes time, it’s simply “man”, but with both subtexts of rationality and honesty (which at that time were oft tied together with the different implications of a different language; one cannot be honest if one is not rational). It’s reprinted in English both ways, as honest man and reasonable man depending on the book.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

In the source Greek, from long after Diogenes time, it’s simply “man”, but with both subtexts of rationality and honesty (which at that time were oft tied together with the different implications of a different language; one cannot be honest if one is not rational). It’s reprinted in English both ways, as honest man and reasonable man depending on the book.

Interesting, because one sees reference to him mostly in the context of how corrupt and dishonest people are.