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Pitching is king though, especially in the play offs. I don't know how I'd feel if my ace got hit on the hand in the time of universal DH.
I just wonder if it fits in with the Yankees. Last edited by packs; 10-06-2022 at 04:49 PM. |
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they both are great players who had amazing seasons.
Great facts presented on this thread for both players To me it is all about winning and this year Judge carried the Yankees to an AL East title and the playoffs. Take him off and they probably miss the playoffs. Take Ohtani off the team and they are still bad and still miss it. So the MVP is Judge
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Almost any other year in the AL, Ohtani wins it. This year, it goes to Judge.
I have a feeling both players are going to be fleeting talents with short primes. I hope I'm wrong. |
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Agreed. Neither seems likely to last.
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It seems Judge is lasting though. He's had phenomenal seasons five years apart, and 2020 aside, has made 4 of 5 all star teams. Is your thinking that he's just too big and muscle bound and is inevitably going to sustain major injuries?
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He missed 50 games in 2018 due to an injury that took longer than expected to heal. He missed two months in 2019 to an oblique strain. In 2020, he missed some of spring training to another injury, and then hurt his calf two seperate times to hit the DL for another 2 stints and miss half of the season. He’s made 4 of 5 all star teams. And has missed significant playing time to injuries in 3 out of these last 5. I don’t see why we would expect a big guy like this to age well. That is not an insult to Judge, the Yankees, or his fans, before someone gets offended |
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On the other hand, Ohtani won it last year with a team that wasn't close to sniffing the playoffs. Trout won it twice playing for the same lousy sub .500 team. If winning is a requirement, then they should say so and limit voting to those who play for winning teams or teams that make the playoffs.
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I don’t think winning is the only component every year the MVP is awarded. This year though I think it’s important to recognize that the Yankees are not leading the AL East without Judge. I don’t know if you watch every Yankees game like I do but there is no doubting Judge carried the team.
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They both are deserving and the beauty of baseball and this forum is the ball talk. Keep it coming
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...and Ohtani didn't make the playoffs...so pitching being 'king there' is mute. Andre Dawson won the MVP on a last place team...are you telling me that his being there kept them from being worse? If you're going to vote a player on a last place team MVP, then it should have been Tony Gwynn: led league with 218 H and .370 BA - had 119 RS; 13 triples; 56 SBs and finished in the top ten MLB wide in virtually all the new analytics...Andre wasn't on a single one. once again, it's not most outstanding season, it's MOST VALUABLE PLAYER (to his team). .
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