Let’s rank top 10-15 T206 Players

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Kutcher55

What is the argument for putting Wagner above Cobb exactly?

While Cobb was a better hitter than Wagner, Wagner's defense is the difference. Wagner played one of the two difficult positions on defense and he played it at a gold glove level. Cobb played an easy position in the outfield and was below average. Honus Wagner was the best hitter in the NL from 1900-1912 while being one of the best defensive players. That is why Bill James has him #2 behind only Babe Ruth, ahead of Mays, Cobb, Williams, etc.

[Bridwell]

In my view, Wagner had been a big star for many years when T206 came out. Ty Cobb was an up and comer. So based on 1909-1910 era, most players thought of Wagner as the best at that time. My list was based on stats and reputations up through 1911 so the stats after that are really a different type of list of the greatest players. I think by 1930, Cobb had surpassed Wagner.

[darwinbulldog]

1. Walter Johnson
2. Cy Young
3. Ty Cobb
4. Tris Speaker
5. Honus Wagner
6. Eddie Collins
7. Christy Mathewson
8. Nap Lajoie
9. Eddie Plank
10. George Davis
11. Ed Walsh
12. Home Run Baker
13. Rube Waddell