Where have all the 1914 Cracker Jacks gone?

[ricktopps]

I hate trimmed cards, but once in awhile you just have to compromise. I have a neighbor that has tons of vintage stuff. I was looking to buy some pre-war stuff from him and asked if he had any 1914 or 1915 Cracker Jack cards. He pulled a low grade 1915 Chief Bender that was trimmed, but I grabbed it because I like Bender and already had the more uncommon 1914 Cracker Jack Bender as an SGC 2. I asked if he had any more and he said "sure, but they are all trimmed" I went back a few day later after he had "pulled" the cards. He had three 1914 Cracker Jacks and about thirty of so 1915 Cracker Jacks. Unfortunately every one of the cards had trimmed the white off of the cards, but at least had retained the white bottom of the card with the players names. I picked up 5 cards (one common 1914 and 4 1915's including Grover Cleveland Alexander and Ray Schalk.
As we looked through his 3 1914's one of them turned out to be SP #93 Del Pratt. I didn't buy the Pratt as we both had to do some homework before trying to make a deal on this card. I want to show you the 5 cards I did purchase and get your thoughts on what a SP like Pratt from 1914 that is clearly severely trimmed might still be worth. His guide was like 5 years old and it showed a VG (which this is not) listed at something like $14,000. He sold me the 5 other cards that i bought for a total of $210. Here is what I bought and the approximate condition of what the 1914 Pratt would be like.

What might be a possible fair offer on the Pratt? Any thoughts?

Rick J
Minnesota

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

That Cady is the (or was last time I checked) most rare of them all. Think you did very well. Each of the Cady or Alexander are worth more than what you paid total for all.

[ricktopps]

sorry the Cady is a 1915. The only 1914 in the previous picture is the Blanding. I didn't make that clear and I'm sorry about that. I am still possibly going to negotiate for the 1914 Pratt,

[Casey2296]

I'm not sure what trimmed CJ's go for but I love the set and those are neat cards you picked up. I guess they would grade "A" at the TPG's unless they have an issue with the size. Too bad some kid had a border fixation, reminds me of when I used to make my mom cut the crust off my PBJ's.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Too bad some kid had a border fixation, reminds me of when I used to make my mom cut the crust off my PBJ's.

There is a near complete e107 set where the top and side borders are cut off every card. There are a couple of t206 Wagners without borders as well. This dam kid sure left his mark!!

[Kidnapped18]

Since this time last year PSA has only graded 138 new CJs!! That averages about 12 new CJs added to the pop reports each month! Here is a breakdown of what has been graded:
PSA 4-------1
PSA 3.5-----2
PSA 3-------9
PSA 2.5-----2
PSA 2-------25
PSA 1.5-----18
PSA 1.5Q----1
PSA 1--------51
PSA 1Q------4
PSA A--------25

So as you see a lot of PSA 1s and As were submitted and graded. That tells me that the high end CJs are already in slabs and there are some low end cards still out there being sent in.

Frank Owens was the lone PSA 4
John McGraw and Wildfire Schulte were the two PSA 3.5s

Surprisingly no Cobbs, WaJos or Mattys graded during this past year!!

Joe Jax, Tinker, Collins, Crawford, Bresnahan, Bender, E. Walsh, Alexander, Gandil, Marquard, Wheat, Speaker, Wagner, Clarke, Jennings, Cicotte and Chance all had 1 each graded

Plank, Wood, and Lajoie all had 2 each graded

McGraw and Carey all had 3 each graded

REA has only had 7 PSA 14' CJs in their past 4 auctions including the lone one in this current auction. Seems like CJs are drying up and becoming harder and harder to acquire in mid to high grades.

What has everyone else been seeing with the '14 CJs? Thoughts?

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Kidnapped18

Since this time last year PSA has only graded 138 new CJs!! That averages about 12 new CJs added to the pop reports each month! Here is a breakdown of what has been graded:
PSA 4-------1
PSA 3.5-----2
PSA 3-------9
PSA 2.5-----2
PSA 2-------25
PSA 1.5-----18
PSA 1.5Q----1
PSA 1--------51
PSA 1Q------4
PSA A--------25

So as you see a lot of PSA 1s and As were submitted and graded. That tells me that the high end CJs are already in slabs and there are some low end cards still out there being sent in.

Frank Owens was the lone PSA 4
John McGraw and Wildfire Schulte were the two PSA 3.5s

Surprisingly no Cobbs, WaJos or Mattys graded during this past year!!

Joe Jax, Tinker, Collins, Crawford, Bresnahan, Bender, E. Walsh, Alexander, Gandil, Marquard, Wheat, Speaker, Wagner, Clarke, Jennings, Cicotte and Chance all had 1 each graded

Plank, Wood, and Lajoie all had 2 each graded

McGraw and Carey all had 3 each graded

REA has only had 7 PSA 14' CJs in their past 4 auctions including the lone one in this current auction. Seems like CJs are drying up and becoming harder and harder to acquire in mid to high grades.

What has everyone else been seeing with the '14 CJs? Thoughts?

Would have to agree, I was only able to add one to my collection this year, an SGC 4 Mcinnis, and that was from a board member. I know there is a Cobb 4 coming up in LOTG, you might see that one break records.