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Old 10-03-2022, 04:27 AM
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I've heard a lot of people say that Evers was better than Tinker and Chance, but I really don't know. I never saw them play.
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Old 10-03-2022, 08:49 AM
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Do any of these HOF players (below) that have not been mentioned on this thread stand a chance of cracking the Top #15 list?

Roger Bresnahan
Fred Clarke
Jimmy Collins
Hugh Duffy
Hughie Jennings
Joe McGinnity
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Old 10-03-2022, 04:20 PM
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I would say no. Some were stars much earlier than T206 era. Some were good managers and that helped their resume.
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Old 10-03-2022, 06:22 PM
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As far as who was regarded as the best players of the era, during the era, I think we need look more further than the cards themselves. Presumably, they printed the most examples of the best players. Here are players with 3 or more different t206 poses:

Hal Chase has 5 different T206s
Cobb, McGraw, and Tinker have 4 different T206s
A number of folks have 3 different T206s (HOFers listed first):
Mathewson
Lajoie
Young
Jennings
Bender
Evers
Chance
Willis
Brown
Marquard
Ames
Camnitz
Donlin
Larry Doyle
Lake (switched teams but diff pose)
Meyers (misspelled name but diff pose)
Mullin (misspelled name but diff pose)
Overall
Schlei
Seymour
Wiltse

Of course Wagner and Plank are exceptions. Then, Speaker, Young, and Johnson are very young/rookies. Duffy, McGinnity, Kelley, J Collins are very old and/or coaching only.

But those listed above are the players with 3 or more t206 poses, which one could surmise were the biggest stars of the day.
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Old 10-03-2022, 06:35 PM
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As far as who was regarded as the best players of the era, during the era, I think we need look more further than the cards themselves. Presumably, they printed the most examples of the best players. Here are players with 3 or more different t206 poses:

Hal Chase has 5 different T206s
Cobb, McGraw, and Tinker have 4 different T206s
A number of folks have 3 different T206s (HOFers listed first):
Mathewson
Lajoie
Young
Jennings
Bender
Evers
Chance
Willis
Brown
Marquard
Ames
Camnitz
Donlin
Larry Doyle
Lake (switched teams but diff pose)
Meyers (misspelled name but diff pose)
Mullin (misspelled name but diff pose)
Overall
Schlei
Seymour
Wiltse

Of course Wagner and Plank are exceptions. Then, Speaker, Young, and Johnson are very young/rookies. Duffy, McGinnity, Kelley, J Collins are very old and/or coaching only.

But those listed above are the players with 3 or more t206 poses, which one could surmise were the biggest stars of the day.
Jennings and McGraw were managers during the T206 era.
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Old 10-03-2022, 06:50 PM
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Jennings and McGraw were managers during the T206 era.
Ok, then eliminate them as “best players”
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Old 10-04-2022, 07:48 AM
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As far as who was regarded as the best players of the era, during the era, I think we need look more further than the cards themselves. Presumably, they printed the most examples of the best players. Here are players with 3 or more different t206 poses:

Hal Chase has 5 different T206s
Cobb, McGraw, and Tinker have 4 different T206s
A number of folks have 3 different T206s (HOFers listed first):
Mathewson
Lajoie
Young
Jennings
Bender
Evers
Chance
Willis
Brown
Marquard
Ames
Camnitz
Donlin
Larry Doyle
Lake (switched teams but diff pose)
Meyers (misspelled name but diff pose)
Mullin (misspelled name but diff pose)
Overall
Schlei
Seymour
Wiltse

Of course Wagner and Plank are exceptions. Then, Speaker, Young, and Johnson are very young/rookies. Duffy, McGinnity, Kelley, J Collins are very old and/or coaching only.

But those listed above are the players with 3 or more t206 poses, which one could surmise were the biggest stars of the day.
This would a list of who is most popular. Chase has 5 cards, but he wouldn't make a list of best players. I used the years 1908-10 and the best players during that period were
1 Mathewson
2 Walsh
3 Cobb
4 Wagner
5 Lajoie
6 Brown
7 Collins
8 Johnson
9 Tinker
10 Joss

Just missing are Young who would make it if it was 08-09 and Speaker who would make it if it was 09-10.
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1.Cobb
2Johnson
3.Wagner
4.Mathewson
5.Speaker
6.Collins
7. Lajoie
8. Brown
9. Plank
10.Young / Keeler
I put Brown ahead of plank due to post season records.

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Old 10-04-2022, 11:07 AM
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1.Cobb
2Johnson
3.Wagner
4.Mathewson
5.Speaker
6.Collins
7. Lajoie
8. Brown
9. Plank
10.Young / Keeler
I put Brown ahead of plank due to post season records.
Plank and Brown over Cy Young?
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Old 10-03-2022, 07:03 PM
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Do any of these HOF players (below) that have not been mentioned on this thread stand a chance of cracking the Top #15 list?

Roger Bresnahan
Fred Clarke
Jimmy Collins
Hugh Duffy
Hughie Jennings
Joe McGinnity
Clarke is #11 in the first post. I agree he's top 15.
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