Class of 2013 -- HOF prospects

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If the reduced innings per start are the result of data about ineffectiveness in later turns though the lineup, perhaps someone will conclude it makes sense to go back to the four man rotation. At today's norms I don't think these guys are in any danger of burning their arms out and may be underutilized.

For these 3 specifically, 2 struggle to stay in the rotation and even pitch at all. Considering the tens of millions they are paying for ace pitchers, the absurdly low inning counts they get these days just doesn't seem worth it. There will be have to be some return to more innings in some way, or we will just have no true starters to save money and everyone will be effectively a reliever.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Maybe Dave Roberts this year will yank all his starters after 3, instead of after 4. Much better to go with fungible journeymen than the four starters with a collective era of about 2.30.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe Dave Roberts this year will yank all his starters after 3, instead of after 4. Much better to go with fungible journeymen than the four starters with a collective era of about 2.30.

Don't get me started on Dave Roberts

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Don't get me started on Dave Roberts

I've never seen a manager try so hard to lose. And at some point I don't care about the computer models, if I have the best pitcher in the league cruising with command after 4, I'm not yanking him in favor of some mediocre journeyman.

[packs]

It makes me wonder what people don't see in Mattingly. Both times he's been passed over (for Girardi and Roberts) the team sticks a mannequin in the dug out and thinks they're a genius only to find out later when the team needs an actual manager that they have no idea what they're doing.

[D. Bergin]

Anthony Rendon looked like he might have an outside shot. 30 WAR by his age 29 season...and then he joined the Angels, and everything fell apart...which by now seems like a self fulfilling prophecy.

Maybe Yelich can have a resurgence, but looking at his career as a whole, his two great seasons seem to be the anomaly, when looking at the rest of his career.

[D. Bergin]

I think if Gerrit Cole can get to 200 Wins and 3000 strikeouts before the end of his career (both pretty attainable), he'll have a pretty good shot.

Of course that will depend on if he becomes one of those pitchers that stays somewhat dominant throughout his thirties, or if he starts to fade away in his early 30's like most guys naturally seem to do.

He needs to get there through longevity. He was never dominant enough to have a short-ish career and get in anyways.