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Old 09-27-2022, 02:58 PM
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Likely coming to a screeching halt. Already, "top tier" cards are sitting with endless bumps. N54 is more discerning than your new collector, so only a matter of time until the sentiment spreads. Then pick up deals that are only 5x 2019 prices!
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Old 09-27-2022, 03:00 PM
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Likely coming to a screeching halt. Already, "top tier" cards are sitting with endless bumps. N54 is more discerning than your new collector, so only a matter of time until the sentiment spreads. Then pick up deals that are only 5x 2019 prices!
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Old 09-27-2022, 03:38 PM
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I felt I was one of the last ones to ditch Beckett's values. Then I went to a show a couple of weekends ago, and every vintage dealer pulled out a Beckett. I was like people don't really go by BV anymore. It's all about sale value, or true value.

That said, I try to pay about 10% under eBay's average prices. I won't pay over eBay, whether on Net54, Facebook (some of those posts are the worst as far as pricing cards) or anywhere else. I might pay 10% over eBay at a show becuase I can feel the card, inspect and take it home and not have to wait a week to possibly get it if the PO doesn't screw things up.
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Been gone for awhile, so it's nice to again be able to post relevant 'Collectorisms'...

279. Groan-Sharking
Posting a card for sale at such an egregiously high price (which doesn’t conform in any way shape or form to past sales), and causing everyone to gripe, “What is this guy thinking???!!”

See also: Trolesaler - a person who’s a member of this site for no other reason than to take advantage of the free access to the B/S/T and hawk their exorbitantly priced cards.

See also: Doing a Double-Brake (informal) - suddenly stopping when you see an eBay price that is so absolutely ridiculous that it makes you wonder if you’re missing something. Like, is the card a Venezuelan or something??
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Old 09-28-2022, 06:58 PM
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Premature extrapolation: the action of estimating or concluding a card price by assuming that existing trends will continue or a current method will remain applicable. Double what it sold for last week!
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Been gone for awhile, so it's nice to again be able to post relevant 'Collectorisms'...

279. Groan-Sharking
Posting a card for sale at such an egregiously high price (which doesn’t conform in any way shape or form to past sales), and causing everyone to gripe, “What is this guy thinking???!!”

See also: Trolesaler - a person who’s a member of this site for no other reason than to take advantage of the free access to the B/S/T and hawk their exorbitantly priced cards.

See also: Doing a Double-Brake (informal) - suddenly stopping when you see an eBay price that is so absolutely ridiculous that it makes you wonder if you’re missing something. Like, is the card a Venezuelan or something??
Haha, glad to have you back Darren!!
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Old 09-28-2022, 10:50 PM
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I mean...interesting feedback from alll...

but again..the card I referred to ...and stated clearly ...isn'tt rare...at all

and I disagree with beckett not being used...most post-war...most...maybe not54's ise it as a guide...not the oly grail...but most also do not use auctuon house sales...as I would argue those are more for rare...iconinc...pre ar stuff. eBay and beckeett I would say are what most people use as a guide.

When I go to the National (15-20) trips and am buying post war Topps stuff.(mostly 50s-60s)..I never have had anyone quote me on auction prices...and rarely seen raw priced over beckett

my exact example is a 58 Aaron PSA 2 priced at 350...beckett (300-NM) and ebay (much much lower) do not jive at all...

I also see this with newer cards graded as 6s frequesntly here as well..(jordans...other high end rookies)...makes as much sense to me as buying unopened modern wax boxes for the price of 10 NrMt full sets of the same year would cost
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So I am pretty sure I was the one who sold one of the cards referenced by the OP. I sold an SGC 4 '58 Aaron for a little over half the cost that someone else is trying to sell a PSA 2 '58 Aaron.

I set my price based on recent Ebay sales.

When I saw the price for the PSA 2 '58 Aaron, I assumed that the seller had paid too much for a raw card and had assumed it would grade higher from PSA.

To be honest, until I read this thread, I didn't know that Beckett still made a price guide. I thought that with the ease that it takes to look up past ebay sales, and websites like 130point.com and VintageCardPrices.com, that a source like Beckett would be obsolete.

Do Beckett values generally run higher than ebay sales? If so, it would explain why dealers use it.

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