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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
Dan McKee and I stayed at the Hampton Hotel in Oaks, PA this weekend. The lady (Nancy) at the check-in counter realized we were there for the Sportscards Show.
So, she asked us if we would be interested in looking at her husband's tobacco card collection ? A re-sounding.... "Yes!" ....from Dan and I, had her instantly call her husband at home. An hour later, Dan met Nancy's husband at the entrance to the Show and paid for his admission ticket. He came to the show with his binder (15-pocket sheets) containing an assortment of 200 - T206/T205 cards. All of them POLAR BEAR cards (ranging from Vg to Ex). He received the cards from his Grandfather's uncle. I asked him where his Grandparent was from when he originally collected them.....Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. After we checked-them-out, we gave the gentleman an offer. He said he would consider our offer and wanted to discuss it with his wife. About a couple of hours later he called us, and returned to the Show. Dan made a very fair and reasonable deal with him. This collection includes quite a number of HOFer's (both T206's and T205's). Some examples are Cy Young, Speaker, McGraw, Bresnahan, Tinker, Evers, Chance, etc. The moral of this story is..... we were very fortunate in selecting the right Hotel to stay in TED Z T206 Reference . |
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T card story
Ted- yes, that is fantastic. I'd say it's good karma! Happy for you.
Trent King |
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That’s awesome, congrats Dan (and Ted). Must have been so cool to look through the binder
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Ted,
Congratulations! These stories always make me think how many collections are sitting in different places, undiscovered or just kept private from the hobby at large. Would love to see some of the cards you were able to purchase. Hope everything is well. - James
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No, Ted, the moral is that they knew they were dealing with good guys and total pros who made them a big-time offer with no BS. Congrats!
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There have been quite a few of these finds this year more than usual it seems interesting that these were all Polar Bear.
Last edited by Pat R; 09-25-2022 at 07:17 PM. |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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Hi Ryan The POLAR BEAR collection, and our lengthy conversations with you were the highlights of our Philly Show this weekend. Take care my friend. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Very cool. Thanks for sharing Ted!
Chad
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Wantlist T205 Walter Johnson Hindu T206 Old Mill Portrait Walter Johnson T207 Walter Johnson Napoleon T215 Type 1 Red Cross Walter Johnson 1923-24 Billiken Pop Lloyd 1924-25 Aguilitas #846 and #870 Pop Lloyd 1923-24 Billiken or Tomas Gutierrez Oliver "Ghost" Marcell 1923-24 Billiken or Tomas Gutierrez Dobie Moore |
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Thanks for sharing this great story Ted and congrats to Dan on buying this Tobacco card collection!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Amen.....+1
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I found this story interesting. Sounds like you did ok by this couple. Nothing worse than trying to hide the value of something and lowballing folks. Congrats on the cool purchase. Yes we’d love to see some pics!
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Thanks for your thoughts, Joe. Love the late 1800’s Boston Beaneaters and the early Boston Red Sox (1903-1918)! Also collecting any and all basketball memorabilia. |
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That's great. Sounds like it was an original collection that one of the heirs added to the binder pages at some point. Any Demmitt's or O'Hara's?
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Want to buy or trade for T213-1 (Bob Rhoades) Other Louisiana issues T216 T215 T214 T213 Etc |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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This T205 Quinn is the only card I currently have from this collection. Dan pulled this one out of the binder because he knew I needed a POLAR BEAR of Quinn for my T205 run. I expect we will be doing some forthcoming deals between us regarding this collection. This T205 Quinn is typical of many of the 200 cards in this collection. . TED Z T206 Reference . Last edited by tedzan; 09-25-2022 at 10:46 PM. Reason: Corrected typo. |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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Hi Rob About 1/2 of these 200 cards are T206's; and, I was hoping that a Demmitt or an O'Hara was in this group. Neither one of these variations are in this collection. Perhaps, those two guys were only shipped out to St. Louis, rather than Lehigh Valley, PA. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Do you have a list of all of the cards that were in the find Ted?
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Thanks Ted, I appreciate the kind words. It’s always great seeing you and talking t206. Hopefully we will catch up again in December
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- James.
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Walk in collection
Love these stories. I like it when dealers are able to obtain collections direct from original owners or heirs. Jeff W
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Great story and thank you for sharing! Whenever I read of something like this, I always wonder how many other collections similar to this are lying around somewhere.
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Great story Ted!
I recently was lucky to purchase two separate brand new to the hobby collections through a dealer-friend of mine in the Rochester ny area. I will post a separate thread not to steal your thunder here! Suffice to say, these collections are out there! Everyone have faith! |
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Pictures at Teddy Ballgame's request
Notice the killer proof mark on the left border of the Moeller Jersey City card.
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Congrats guys!
Dan how come something like this did not happen when we roomed together at the National in Chicago? Teddy must be your good luck charm!!
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Fr3d mcKi3 |
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That's cool Dan, it's an alignment mark and not a true proof mark.
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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Let me tell you the rest of this story......it gets even better. There are 2 nearby Hotels in Oaks, PA. The Hampton Inn and the Hilton. Danny expected me to book us into the Hilton. However, I booked us into the Hampton. The check-in lady (Nancy), whose husband's collection we bought worked at the Hampton. Had I booked us at the Hilton, there would NOT be a story to tell you. You said it best, ole buddy.... "I must be a good luck charm" TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Awesome story! I love hearing of these old time collections coming to light!
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Sometimes, coincidences like these are the best ones. It's very funny how life works that way, Ted.
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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James Were you at the Philly Show this past weekend ? TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Wish I was able to make it. Things unfortunately came up, such is life sometimes, as I'm sure you know. I'm hoping to make the one in December, assuming your there. If not I'm sure there is another show we may cross paths at! Hope you and the rest of your family has been doing well, my friend. - James
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Great story, Ted. Thanks for sharing.
Dan, that picture of cards on the table, with those tall stacks, that reminds me of old collecting, I love it! Nary a slab in sight. That's a feel good story for the day. |
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T206 find
Congratulations Ted & Dan. Wonderful story. Gives us all hope that we will stumble across a similar find.
Best regards, Joe |
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Wow awesome to see!
Any idea, based on the cards included and their condition, what the approximate value of this haul might be? Just as is, not talking about potentially grading certain items. Is this a $25K+ stack? I know the cards pretty well but would honestly have trouble valuing them so as to make an offer.
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Thanks for your thoughts, Joe. Love the late 1800’s Boston Beaneaters and the early Boston Red Sox (1903-1918)! Also collecting any and all basketball memorabilia. |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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Hi Frank Dan and I were like two "kids in a candy store". The last time I had a T206 find that had provenance like this one was 14 years ago from a small town in North Carolina (400+ PIEDMONT cards). TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Joe D. Great to hear from you. Do you still go to the annual Cooperstown Show on HOF weekend ? TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Very cool Ted and Dan. Looks like a terrific group of cards. Thanks for the photos.
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Congrats Dan & Ted, Karma is a thing and you guys deserve it.
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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I plan on being at the December (2 - 4) Show. I look forward to seeing you and your Dad there. Take care, TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Nice find
Teddy and Dan-
Congrats on the find! I tried to get my man Pat to stay at that hotel ( I think I smelled a card deal......ha ha). Pat stayed at a different hotel and was offered a bunch of 1980's common cards by the lady at the desk. Just our luck! Sorry I missed the show- hope to see you guys in December (When everyone will be staying at your hotel......) |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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Hi Kevin I always considered the shows at Oaks were better than the Valley Forge Casino shows. This one certainly proved it. Look forward to seeing you and Pat in December. Take care my friend, TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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I am a little surprised to find the POLAR BEAR tobacco brand distributed in Northeastern Pennsylvania. Take care my friend, TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ted, there are a lot of ads for Polar bear tobacco in Northeastern Pennsylvania newspapers many of them are from Allentown newspapers right near where you said the grandfather was when he collected them. |
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I think it is a consensus view that Polar Bear scrap tobacco was packaged in Middletown, OH, just north of Cincinnati. That's about halfway between St. Louis and Philly (admittedly a little closer to St. Louis). It would not be shocking (at least to me) if PB packs made their way to eastern PA. I do find it interesting that there were no Demmitts or O'Haras in the collection.
Take care guys. Last edited by sreader3; 10-01-2022 at 07:04 PM. |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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I was unaware of the PB adv. in the Northeastern Pennsylvania area. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
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Scot My guess is that American Lithographic shipped all (or most) of the Demmitt and O'Hara St. Louis variations to the St. Louis area. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ted, They excluded some areas in the packing and shipping of certain brands because of the tobacco laws in those areas but I don't think it would have been practical for them to start pulling certain players to include or exclude. If there was around 100 T206's that's only 40% of the polar Bears if there were no duplicates so most likely Demmitt and O'hara just happened to be in the 60% that weren't in the collection. |
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Fantastic T-card "walk-in" (with provenance) at Phillly Show. You'll enjoy this story
Imagine how fabulous it would have been if these two guys were included in this collection ?
Approximately 100 subjects are T206's, representing the 350-only Series....350/460 Series....460-only Series (both Print groups). Graded "A" for Affordable and Attractive TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ted, what a great success story for all concerned. Win-win. And it demonstrates yet again that there is still undiscovered stuff out there waiting to be outed.
Hoping to make December show, particularly since I missed the National. Unless, of course, Florida gets smacked again with another Ian. Fortunately, for me and many other Floridians Palm Beach County was mostly spared. I fear that our local insurance and world reinsurance markets are going to be hard pressed to meet their liabilities, given the severity of Ian. John |
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